Are Coulottes "Spiritual"?

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    I teach "modesty" NOT anything more or less.

    Some teach "Dresses" only - no slacks.

    But almost ALL will accept "coulottes" as being "just as good" as a dress.

    Do you accept this reasonning? If you teach the Bible says "dress/skirt", how can this be "stretched"?

    Coulottes divide the legs as do slacks. They draw attention to the crotch (forgive any insensitivities here) which is often the condemnation of slacks.

    Just trying to get "into the mind" of those holding such views. Thanks.
     
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    For myself and my daughters we do not wear coulottes. For some of the reasons you mentioned; however, they seem to be more modest than most other types of pants.
     
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    I will be very honest here, in that I wonder why pants are seen as modest on men? Don't they expose the man's crotch and behind as well? (Please forgive me for being so blunt.)

    There is a relative in my family who are of the Holiness denomination. They feel that cullottes are compromising with the world; ie- getting just as close as you can to wearing pants and shorts. I think they are a nice alternative for dresses, but there are some things, such as ball playing, etc. where they would be more immodest than pants if you fell down.

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    PS- Just wanted to add though, that when I see a lady in cullottes, she does look like such a lady and very feminine to me.

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    Culottes generally are shorter than the dresses most 'dresses only' women wear.

    I do not think culottes are more spiritual than a pair of baggy pants. However, that's coming from a woman who wears pants. [​IMG]

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    A filthy mind will think filthy thought whether one is covered head to heel or not. Get the minds out of the gutter, and people can wear wot they please. Simple as that. Spirituality is not measured by the yardage of the garment, but the depth of the soul.

    Thank God He made me free!

    Cheers,

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    Amen, Jim.
     
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    Coulottes are the most ridiculous piece of clothing ever invented, expect for maybe the tie!
     
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    posted by Jim
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    YAH!! For JIM [​IMG]
     
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    Excellent reply Jim! Well said, my friend!

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    Dr. Griffin,

    I think Coulottes are okay, but I think we Christians in general should watch their apparel very very carefully b/c unsaved people are always looking at you and trying to find a reason to show that you are not so different as they are.

    When a man wears a kilt or when a woman wears anything other than a dress, then he/she opens up a crack for people to criticize.

    I always see it this way: don't give anyone reason to sling mud at them.

    Also, use reason: if you go walking around in the Harlem ghetto with your $120 Nike Air Jordans, then don't be surprised if you get robbed.

    Otherwise, I think God is okay with women wearing Coulottes.

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    If indeed unsaved people are concerned about whether Christians wear coulottes or not, then the discussion about why we are different is totally off-base. This is simply a fashion preference--not about faith in Christ. Sometimes it's the wrangling over such details of fashion that makes unsaved people disillusioned with Christians.
     
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    Tim, I agree that wearing coulottes stands almost squarely as a fashion trend; however, many unsaved folks know about these kinds of debates that Christians go through and they may use them as amunition in their opposition to Christian ethics in order to re-enforce the disillusionment already in place in their hearts.

    I just pray that Christians look at everything they wear and pretend that unsaved, overly critical people are looking at them.

    If you see your apparel as opening up an opportunity for someone to question whether your apparel is Christian or not...then perhaps it may not be the best clothing to wear. I would feel uncomfortable wanting to wear anything that invites a debate.

    Of course, I think this depends on the cultural atmosphere.

    Lol...in my community, the congregation frowns severely on ministers if they were anything but a suit and tie.

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    To the best of my knowledge, all clothing human beings wear is made of physical materials and thus cannot be considered 'spiritual'. To call a piece of clothing spiritual is to attribute to it properties it does not and cannot have.

    On the contrary, ALL people are spiritual. The crux of the matter is, which spirit?

    This may sound funny, but I want the clothing I wear (besides being modest) to make the people I am with feel comfortable. Thus, "good taste, appropriate to the occasion" is what I go by. Some of the 'dresses only' ladies draw attention to themselves by their clothing that I do not wish to draw to myself. There are other times when I would not want to wear anything BUT a dress, and even then, of a formality appropriate to the occasion.

    It is my character, my speech, my actions which are going to tell people what spirit dwells within me, not what I wear per se.
     
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    Excellent post, as usual, Jim! [​IMG]

    If a man is going to look on a women with lust, it doesn't matter what she is wearing so I don't think she should be held accountable for that. We can't help what is in someone else's mind.

    As for culottes. I have seen very cute ones with a flap or pleats in the front and back in such a manner so you could not tell it was not a skirt.

    I used to wear culottes when I played volleyball on family night at the church. No way, would I have worn a dress or skirt! I wear slacks everyplace else, but when I go to church activities, I respect their preferences.

    Do I feel more spiritual in a skirt as opposed to slacks? No...I don't think it has anything to do with 'spirituality'.

    Modesty is the word we should be using here instead of spirituality.

    Blessings,
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    If God is not concerned with how a woman appears then why did He say this:

    Proverbs 7:10, "And behold, there met him a woman with THE ATTIRE OF A HARLOT, and subtil of heart."

    And this:

    Isaih 47:2-3, "Take the millstones, and grind meal; uncover thy locks, MAKE BARE THE LEG, UNCOVER THE THIGH, pass over rivers. THY NAKEDNESS SHALL BE UNCOVERED..."

    And this:

    1 Timothy 2:9, "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in MODEST APPAREL, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold or pearls or costly array."
     
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    context, custom amd historical significance. We have been through this before. There are rules to undertanding the scriptures.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Jim,
    It is hard to take what you say serious because I have read what you wrote about not believing Genesis to be literal and that you sit under a woman pastor. You have views that are not Biblical and your views are not views I follow.

    So, your context, custom and historical significance seems to be just another way to throw the verses out the window.
     
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    you beat me to it, excellent post of scriptures HCL! [​IMG]
     

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