Are there any Baptist here who do not believe in the Trinity?

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  1. the 'I AM' hath sent me

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    I ran into a lady who said she was Baptist, member of the Church, been baptized, and said she's saved.

    Can someone be a Christian and not believe in the Trinity?

    Are there any other Baptist who believe not in the Trinity?
     
  2. Brother Adam

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    Since belief in the Trinity is not necessary for salvation, I would say yes, yet I would question seriously why they do not believe in the Trinity. It may be that they are a new Christian and just need to be corrected.

    I do not know of any Christians who do not believe in the Trinity.

    Until next Post, Adam
     
  3. Pioneer

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    Belief in the trinity is necessary for salvation. Rom 10:9,10 (KJV)

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pioneer:
    Belief in the trinity is necessary for salvation. Rom 10:9,10 (KJV)

    [ September 13, 2001: Message edited by: Pioneer ]
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    That is some of your typical bunk. *Believe in the Lord Jesus and that God raised him from the dead*. Not here or anywhere else in scripture is the word trinity found.
     
  5. Eladar

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    That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
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    For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. NIV

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    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. KJV

    that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
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    for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

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    WOW!!! It seems to me that all three of these Bibles are saying the same thing.

    It doesn't speak about the Trinity, but it does speak of two out of the three.
     
  6. Pioneer

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    I refuse to get into a debate over the trinity.

    You make call it "bunk" but it is the gospel truth. If a person doesn't believe that Christ is God in the flesh then he will die and go to hell. You cannot be a Christian and not believe in the trinity.

    Bro. Steve Smith

    P.S. According to you the JWs and Seventh Day Adventists are all going to heaven. They don't believe in the trinity either. I guess we ought to welcome them as our "Christian" brothers.

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  7. Chris Temple

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bendecido por Dios:
    Can someone be a Christian and not believe in the Trinity? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    No. Since the Triune God is explicitly revealed by special revelation, and Christians are commanded to go and make disciples in the name of the Triune God, can a person who is drawn by the Father, saved by Christ and indwelt by the Holy Spirit be unable or unwilling to believe in Him?
     
  8. Dr. Bob

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    There are lots of doctrinal areas of which a person might be ignorant. The Holy Spirit is one of those areas.

    A person can be saved by the regenerating WORK of the Holy Spirit, but without even knowing or understanding that there IS a Holy Spirit!

    But I believe once a person does claim to be born again, and exposed to the triune Godhead (a biblical word) and then REJECTS the Holy Spirit - I would question that person's salvation.

    And Romans 10:9-10 is a red herring. Has nada, zilch, zero, nothing to do with the doctrine of the Trinity. Someone just made a mistake in referencing. Cut them some slack.
     
  9. Chris Temple

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    I agree Dr. Bob. We must be careful of two errors.

    The first is that we mustn't expect a new Christian to be a PhD in theology at the moment of conversion. They must simply trust in Christ as Lord and Savior, understand their need to turn from sin and seek forgiveness.

    OTOH, when scriptural and spritual truth is revealed to them, the true believer will, as led by the Holy Spirit, believe in essential doctrinal truth. The truth of the Triune God is one of these one comes to accept.
     
  10. the 'I AM' hath sent me

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    Thanks everyone for your replies. The lady has not believed in the Trinity for some 20+ years. And she goes to a Baptist church.

    I myself believe in the Trinity, and I am a sort of New Convert(2 1/2 years).

    I have no doubt that the Trinity is in Scripture, maybe not the word but the Godhead. Even Jesus said to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, AND HOLY GHOST.

    Anyway, thank you all for your comments. I will print them off and show this lady.

    God Bless, Kenneth
     
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    Dr. Bob was bashing Dr. Hyles on another thread I was just reading, but interestingly enough they hold (held...whatever) the same position on this question about the trinity. Dr. Hyles came to the San Francisco Bay area where I was in seminary. He got in a dispute with one of the professors of this IBF seminary over this very question. The seminary professor said this belief was necessary...while Dr. Hyles said it was not, but should come to be believed by a truly saved person who was growing in the truth of the Word. Bob, you agree with HYLES :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Strange bedfellows!!!

    Have a great day.
     

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