Are there any saved catholics?

I will have to go back and reread it. I always avoid a good discussion on theology.

 

Daniel you don't owe me anything I just feel that you should not stand and chide others for not answering when you have failed to answer. IMO I feel that your problem is making blanket statements and then not being able to prove them biblically.
Murph

 

Exactly.
It depends on where the individual Catholic puts his/her trust. Also, perhaps one attending the Catholic church is seriously questioning church dogma and is looking to God for the truth.
Now Daniel David is correct, the Catholic church is wroth with false doctrine; and Jesus Himself said, "In VAIN do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men." If the Catholic's trust is in Mary, sacraments, traditions, or whatever, they are not saved. If their trust is in the Lord Jesus Christ and His sacrifice, that is another matter.
When it is asked, "Are there any saved Catholics," that is really an impossible question to answer, because, we would have to be God to know every heart and mind of every Catholic.

 

"if Catholics accept lock, stock, and barrel the salvific dogmas of the RCC, then they can't possibly be Christians."
Most don't. The standard of theological knowledge among the RC community at large is extremely low. And among the ones who are in the know it is often something of a sport to disagree with the partyline on all sorts of stuff.

"We were never part of the Great Whore and never came out of the Great Whore in protest - we are Bible Believing Baptists."
Well...
Often Christianity is divided in 2 branches. Western Christianity and Eastern Christianity. Those 2 are sub-divided again in 2 branches.
WC into Catholicism and Protestantism, EC into Eastern-Orthodoxy and Oriental-Orthodoxy.

"(which I will admit begs the question, "Then why are they still in the RCC?")"
Because Catholicism is not about dogma's it's a feeling. And that's why believing all the ins and outs of Catholic theology is not all that relevant when it comes to the question:"Is that person Catholic?"

 

I am a former Catholic, a cradle Catholic.
I was saved reading a Douay-Rheims Bible.
After reading the OT I knew I was in big trouble.
In the Gospel of John I heard and believed the voice of Jesus Christ, that evening in my barracks He gave me eternal life.

Being a cradle Catholic I went back to the Church of Rome. That began a two year "dialogue" with Roman Catholic theology and their spokesmen.
there were several dogma issues which the priests could not scripturally justify accept to say that the Tradition of the Church was on an equal par with the Word of God and must be believed in order to remain a Catholic in good standing.

I tried to believe this and go through the motions of Catholicism but I honestly couldn't so I left. After another couple of years of study of the Word of God, my wife (a former Mormon) and I were baptised together at Tremont Temple Baptist Church in Boston.

Yes, I believe many members of the Church of Rome are indeed saved but, as someone has said, in spite of the Church. I believe they know the truth but can't/won't admit it.

I will say this, all the while I was Catholic, I knew within my heart that my only hope was Jesus Christ.

HankD

 

Two questions:
Have you reached it?
Who is "we"?


HankD

 

we= Precepts and qs

 

Thank you Precepts/QS.

No I don't know who "we" is/are.

One thing I do know.

You seem to have a full time position here at the BB.

HankD

 

Perhaps Hank was complimenting you on your ability to live your evidently busy life and still have time to post here so often .

In spite of our differences I appreciate a good plumber. The last plumber I called out to my residence was digging through the raw sewage in my back yard. While he was doing this I told him that I didn't know what he was being paid, but it wasn't enough. Thank God for a good worker who is not afraid of getting his hands dirty.

 

I already gave my opinion.

So much for my "sinless perfection".

But, as to "stirring up a stink" I must admit that I have recently had some good teachers.



Chill out my paranoid brother. No need to publish your diary on the BB.

HankD

 

If there are no "real" Christians in the RCC, who is God speaking to in Rev.18,4-5?

"Then I heard another voice from Heaven say: 'Come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to Heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.'"

If every Roman Catholic is damned because they can not articulate the simple hope in Jesus emplanted within some of them into complex theologically accurate, precise terminology, then I could be in big trouble too..and so could you my brother.

 

Are there any saved catholics?

There are several Catholics who participate on this board, and clearly they're saved. (their testimonies and fruits are abundant proof of that).

As for Catholicism in general, the percentage of saved folks in the pews is probably about the same as the percentage of saved folks in Baptist pews. Only the arrogant Baptist presumes that most members of his church are saved, and only the holier-than thou Baptist presumes that most members of his church aren't.

 

You're allowed to believe what you like, and I can respect that. However, I challenge you to go the the "All Christians" forum and tell the Catholics there, by name, that they're not saved. I'm not ready to do that. In fact, such an action would be contradictory to biblical teachings. I'd rather have a humble Christian spirit and be wrong, and have a pharasaical spirit and be right.

Now, I know a great many Catholics. I can assuredly report that nearly all of them are saved. As for the Catholics on this board, they all bear the fruits of saved persons, and I have no reason to think otherwise.