Are these high school ID's illegal?

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  1. Salty

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    I don't think that it is a good idea.

    Rewarding grades artificially doesn't improve performance. The motivation needs to be intrinsic.

    And in this case it is creating a division among students that is not necessary.
     
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    Actually, it could be a violation because students have a right of privacy concerning their testing, grades, etc. While the actual grades are not distributed, I gather that the color coating may find a judge that rules for privacy rights.

    As well, accreditation looks at privacy issues too.

    For me, I would discontinue the policy before someone decides to take this to court. All one student has to show is that their privacy was violated and/or they were harmed by this policy.
     
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    And what about students with learning disabilities? Don't know if it's legal, but it is not right.
     
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    It's probably not illegal, but it is ill advised.

    Most high school kids know who the smart kids are and who the stragglers are. They don't need cards.

    I'm kind of sickened by thinking about the amount of time and money the school district spent arguing and hashing out the criteria and standards needed to receive each color of card and how the program would be implemented.
     
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    It's stupid. The least they could do is put a bar code on the back for students who get campus discounts and such for their grades. There's no good reason to make that visible to other students.

    In addition, there are students who seriously work their tails off for every C they get. They work just as hard as some kids work at getting straight A's, and some kids with straight A's don't have to work that hard for them.
    I remember refusing to join a college honors association because I knew students who got C's and worked just as hard as I did, if not harder, for those grades because they had kids with disabilities, major health issues, or trouble with transportation to and from the college. No way could I justify being classified as "better" or deserving of more honor than they were when they worked just as hard and often even harder to overcome outside obstacles and keep working towards their goals.

    So no, I don't agree with this at all. It's horrible and to think that people in charge of our children's education didn't THINK about this is an even bigger concern. Maybe a course in common sense should be created and mandated to maintain their positions.
     
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    It is a private school so all the neocons and libertarians should support the ID cards. It is morally indifferent, like posting grades on a bulletin board, a historical practice.
     
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    Good idea.

    So the students that get C's--they should get an "A" for effort?

    Well this is a slippery slope. You are advocating that good intentions and hard work is more important than results.
     
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    >In addition, there are students who seriously work their tails off for every C they get. They work just as hard as some kids work at getting straight A's, and some kids with straight A's don't have to work that hard for them.

    EXACTLY WHEN is a kid supposed to learn about the real world?
     
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    Wouldn't honor rolls, deans lists, magna/summa cum laude, etc. violate this "right of privacy" too?
     
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    Why should that happen? They get what they get despite the circumstances.



    Actually, yes. I'd hire someone with good character and average paper grades light years before I'd hire someone with poor character but looks great on paper.

    Now if both seemed like they were on level ground apart from paper grades, yes I'd hire the one who excelled on paper. That's life.

    But as a person, I won't stand and say I'm better than someone and deserve to be treated with some kind of higher honor based on a grade on some paper when I personally know others who put in just as much effort and didn't make the grade. I don't stand against those that do. It's their own thing and yes, achievement is a good thing to recognize but for me personally? It slammed me in the face that it was wrong FOR ME when I saw others around me. One lady in particular in the same class who had a husband leave her and she was on her own with three teen boys, two that had autism. What right did I have to accept any special recognition when she didn't? If anything, she deserved it more.

    No, that's not how life works. I'm not advocating that we make it work like that, but it would be nice if people, and life, took that into consideration. Right now the latest thing in job hiring is to send in your resume over the computer and it is read BY A COMPUTER. The computer matches information to weed through them.

    I find that silly. It's like humans are being reduced to whatever they can show on paper and now you can't even look a possible employer in the eye? It's all based on what a paper says? That's what they do with animals who go for prizes. They have to have records, pedigrees, their breeding helps.

    It's a major step backward.

    I got lucky a while back and got a job I wanted without the piece of paper (the almighty degree saying you can write) most people want. They went based on my talent.
    Now I moved and the place I wanted to work at won't accept a resume without that piece of paper. My talent and experience doesn't matter.
    They want that piece of paper.

    So results? A piece of paper isn't the best judge of being able to produce positive results. Sometimes results in real life are the best judge of that. Kinda like people in churches. Some would look wonderful on paper. Others wouldn't. I've found it's a bad idea to judge someone on their head knowledge without taking heart knowledge and experience into account.
     

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