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Discussion in 'Politics' started by KenH, Oct 6, 2007.
If this is true (big if) it's troubling:
This.......from the Christian Scientist Monitor.
The title of this thread could have been worded so as to not cast unnecessary aspersions on Christianity.
While we're at it why don't we get the JW viewpoint, and the Morman, RCC, the John Birch society, SDA's etc.
The vast right wing conspiracy type of thing. "The Christians are going to make us eat our young."
The title is simply a question, not an assertion. A question that an ongoing investigation seeks to answer. I find it to be a testament of KenH's moral certainty that he can actively participate in constructive criticism of the Church and some of its members.
Now wait a minute. I got criticized a while back because I made up my own thread titles. Now I am being criticized because I simply used the title of the article. :laugh:
Maybe some of you folks need to concern yourselves more with the substantive issues than with mere thread titles.
The atheists in the service to their country should not be persecuted for having a meeting. That is their right. The govt. should not promote any religion, nor punish anyone for holding a legal meeting. Freedom of religion includes freedom to NOT follow a religion.
Bah... This was a Christian Nation founded on Christian Principles taken from the Bible.
Ya don't like it, take your Atheistic or Allah Worshiping behind outta here.
No, this is NOT a Christian nation. It IS a nation made up predominately of Christians. We have freedom of religion in this country. If you want a theocracy, take YOUR behind to Iran.
Poor KenH. Imagine that -- can't win for losing on the old BB
It is an undisputable fact that this nation was founded on Christian principles. Which has nothing to do with a theocracy.
Wrong, this is NOT a Christian Nation founded on Christian Principles. This is a Constitutional Republic founded on principles of freedom and justice which IN PART are drawn from Biblical principles, but not in whole and frankly it is indeterminable what percent that part is.
But at no point does the Constitution or the Bill or Rights even INTIMATE this country was founded for the propagation and furtherance of Christianity. It is a FREE NATION. It propagates and furthers FREEDOM.
While it is a "CHRISTIANIZED" nation it is not a Christian Nation. Biblically there is NO SUCH thing as a Christian Nation and Biblically there is no such authorization for any such nation.
Now that doesn't mean our nation doesn't have the right to limit freedoms, it does. But its limitations and decisions are based in freedom and the preservation of that freedom.
God is specifically and clearly recognized and attributed providential work in the founding of this nation. But that is a far cry from the idea that this is a Christian Nation.
Such an attitude is really no different from that of the mullahs in Iran.
Christ's kingdom has always advanced through the inner work of the Holy Spirit and persuasion, not by force or intimidation.
But just for clarification, it's freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
(main difference being, there are those that don't want religion practiced)
Wrong. They go hand in hand.
The free exercise clause of the First Amendment give us freedom of religion. The establishment clause gives us freedom from religion.
Can you show me where the Constitution says you must pick a religion?
Didn't make myself clear. Those that don't want religion practiced by others, espouse freedom from religion.
Freedom of religion encompasses freedom not to indulge in a religion. Freedom from religion implies no religion.
I see what you are saying, thanks for the clarification. Although, I don't know of anyone who is advocating not allowing people to practice a religion and forcing them to embrace atheism.
I didn't criticize you then, silly.
While this is not a Baptist only Forum, here is the Baptist distinctive of Individual Soul Liberty:
From the GARBC Web site in the Public Domain at .
To see all the baptist distinctives click on the URL.
I didn't say that you did.