Are we ready for a Pentacostal VP?

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  1. JustChristian

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    Palin's Pentecostal Roots Under Attack (w/video)
    9/6/2008

    http://www.chron.com/channel/housto...rleyPost:12162c31-9c19-4cde-950e-7ad2feac5379

    Sarah Palin, Republican nominee for Vice President, has come under increased scrutiny in many areas. As a national neophyte, this is understandable, but the media has extended its inquiries into Palin's Pentecostal faith.
    A recent AP article notes that Palin's Pentecostal roots are obscured in her biography. In an August 14 interview with Time, Palin described herself as Christian and only when pressed did she state that she attends a non-denominational community church. No mention is made of her conversion in the Wasilla Assemblies of God church as a teen and her long stay there until 2002.
    Why would Sarah omit this? Grant Wacker, an expert on Pentecostalism at Duke Divinity School, offered this explanation in the same AP article: "Though Pentecostals are diverse and rapidly mainstreaming themselves, the public still perceives them as sectarian and uncompromising, and those traits will not help Palin's image."

    Maybe. Or, maybe Palin is trying to avoid the "Jeremiah Wright" treatment being given to the Reverend Ed Kalnins, pastor of the Wasilla AG church. USA TODAY cites a Huffington Post source: "Kalnins has preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted into heaven; and preached that the Sept. 11 attacks and the war in Iraq were part of a world war over Christianity." (Note: the Wasilla AG church has clarified Palin's role in the church.)
     
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    Yes more smears like the left did to John Ashcroft as AG.
     
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    Sorry BaptistBeliever,

    Look at the dates. She left that church in 2002. That would be one year after President Bush came into office in January 2001, only a few months after 9/11/2001, and well before the war in Iraq started up again in March 2003.

    There is nothing similar here to BHO's 20 years sitting under the racist false teaching of Wright.
     
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    More smears from the far right. So what denomination is she? The video posted show her speaking at that church in June, 2008. Of course she didn't attend there when she moved to Juneau as governor.
     
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    What difference does it make to which denomination her church belongs? You attempted to associate her with her former pastor based in things he supposedly said about the Bush Administration, 9/11, and the War in Iraq and to draw a parallel between that and BHO & Rev. Wright.

    I pointed out that according to your post she left that church/pastor in 2002 shortly after President Bush took office, even more shortly after 9/11, and well before the return to hostilities in Iraq. You can't compare her situation to that of BHO sitting 20 years under Rev. Wright's racist, anti-American false teaching. You have apples and oranges here.
     
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    Here's an article that starts out describing what was happening in this video - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

    Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

    Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

    In 2002, Palin moved her family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.


    I believe she now attends Wasilla Bible Church and then an AofG church when she's in Juneau.
     
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    So she's not a Baptist. So what?

    Seems to me that our last President who claimed to be a Baptist didn't turn out to be exactly a paragon of Biblical morality.

    Maybe he couldn't speak in tongues because he couldn't figure out what "is" is.
     
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    John McCain is Baptist.
     
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    John McCain says he is a Baptist, while he had been identifying himself as an Episcopalian for years before that, but has he ever been immersed? He said the following in 2007 about his membership in North Phoenix Baptist Church and baptism:

    ''I didn't find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs."

    - www.gopusa.com/news/2007/september/0917_mccain_religion.shtml
     
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    Thanks for posting this. I wonder how he could have been received into membership into a Baptist church without immersion?

    Sounds like a renegade Baptist, but I think we have a few of those around here, too. :laugh:
     
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    We are not going to get two people in this forum to agree to what a Baptist is....how are we going to set up a criteria for the candidates?

    I am for McCain/Palin because Obama scares me to death!
     
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    I understand the feeling. I feel the same way about McCain.
     
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    socialized medicine, more government control, legal homosexuality, abortion approved - what Democrat platform item did I forget?

    I talked to a nurse friend who said that Obama hasn't got a clue how to reform healthcare costs.
     
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    I want socialized medicine. I'm tired of messing with private insurance.
     
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    Well, we need to do something differently. Our once proud medical support has slipped to 42nd in the world, barely above Cuba. Fifty million Americans don't have health care insurance. Medicare is in danger right when we need it most with the Baby Boomers starting to retire. What's the Republican plan?
     
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    I just finished a 6 figure bout with breast cancer. Because I planned, I don't owe a dime, and I didn't have to mortgage anything.

    Poor planning on democrat's parts doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

    I am dead set against socialized anything!!
     
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    Keep this in mind when the same folks that give you the IRS, tax code, our VA hospitals, FEMA, and Congress screw up everything even remotely related to your health care.

    In our state, people are often forced to go to the DMV 3-4 separate times to get a drivers license because they can't keep the computers running. These same computers will be in charge of your medical records.

    When I am confronted with the abysmal track record of our government, I have no desire whatsoever to give more control of my life over to that bunch.


    I thought you were libertarian at one time. What changed?
     
  18. KenH

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    Life experience.
     
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    Yes, this is one of the biggest issues as far as I'm concerned. I also look forward to President Obama doing what he can to end partisanship. It's time to put the deception of the past eight years to bed. We need a new direction and I believe Obama will provide one.
     
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    Are we ready for a Pentecostal VP? :BangHead:

    What an idiotic question!

    Yep!

    Without any question.


    Just as much as are ready for a Catholic VP (Sen. Joe Biden, D.), and probably much more than we are ready for a Jewish VP (Mr. Wayne Root, Lib.) or one whose religion is unknown to me (Supervisor Matt Gonzalez, I.) or several others.

    Just as much as we have been ready for those who (at least at one time or another were) identified as Methodist (Barkley, Cheney); Quaker (Nixon); Disciples of Christ (L. B. Johnson); Lutheran or Congregationalist (Humphrey); Episcopalian (Agnew, Ford, G. H. W. Bush); Baptist (Rockefeller, Gore); Presbyterian (Mondale) or 'Independant Fundamentalist' (Quayle), during my lifetime.

    What part of the
    "No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification (for that office)" clause is missing from your copy of the United States Constitution?

    Ed

    P.S. BTW, the word is spelled "P-e-n-t-e-c-o-s-t-a-l" for the benefit of the OP!
     
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