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Featured Are You a Calvinist or a Non-Cal?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by InTheLight, Feb 27, 2012.

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Are you a Calvinist or a Non-Cal?

  1. I am a Calvinist

    19 vote(s)
    36.5%

  2. I am not a Calvinist

    33 vote(s)
    63.5%
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  1. Thousand Hills

    Thousand Hills Active Member

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    I didn't vote, I've decided to identify myself as a Peculiar Baptist.:saint:

    1 Peter 2:9-10 9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

    :godisgood:
     
    #41 Thousand Hills, Feb 29, 2012
  2. Amy.G

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    :laugh::laugh:
     
    #42 Amy.G, Feb 29, 2012
  3. jonathan.borland

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    I voted, because I wanted to get a general lay of BB land on this oft-discussed issue. I hope more people will vote!
     
    #43 jonathan.borland, Mar 2, 2012
  4. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    Answer me this question....how long do you reckon that Calvinistic beliefs have been around....give me a time-line.
     
    #44 Earth Wind and Fire, Mar 2, 2012
  5. jonathan.borland

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    Ignatius, Justin, and Irenaeus all predate Augustine by a good distance; the former would seem to be in the non-Calvinist camp.
     
    #45 jonathan.borland, Mar 2, 2012
  6. JonC

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    Certainly Augustine held to total depravity and substitutionary atonement. They are incorporated in John Calvin’s views. But “Calvinism” as many would see it is definitely post-Calvin. I think that we could date it to Beza. Beza answered questions that arose by viewing Scripture through a “Calvinistic” lens. But if you drop off limited atonement (the type that would say Christ was a propitiation for our sins, and the sins of the whole world meaning the elect around the world) – then you get Calvin. Beyond Calvin, the next step in my view is Luther. So, I pick Beza or Calvin.
     
    #46 JonC, Mar 2, 2012
  7. Alive in Christ

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    Tom

    I am very very strongly grounded in Gods wonderfull Doctrins of Grace. Praise God for them. What glorious liberty and freedom we have as children of the King.

    However, I have long since reputiated the calvinism that I once held to.

    I think of it now as sort of an "anti-grace" theology.

    I just got to where I couldnt be part of it anymore
     
    #47 Alive in Christ, Mar 3, 2012
  8. jonathan.borland

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    Only 30 voters so far. It would be good of 100 of us would vote!
     
    #48 jonathan.borland, Mar 4, 2012
  9. convicted1

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    I could call myself an "odd-ball" baptist, but there's a lodge that goes by "odd fellows", and they might confuse me with them....:laugh: :D
     
    #49 convicted1, Mar 4, 2012
  10. convicted1

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    the count is 33 votes now: 21 NC and 11 C.....


    come on NC's and vote......:laugh: :D :)
     
    #50 convicted1, Mar 4, 2012
  11. David Lamb

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    Why 100 (rather than, say, 300 or 650, Jonathan? To make it easier to work out percentages? :laugh:
     
    #51 David Lamb, Mar 5, 2012
  12. jonathan.borland

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    I just know from certain Bible version polls in that forum that it takes 3-4 months at least to keep the poll active to get up to 100 votes on the BB, and the more who vote the more accurate the result, on average.
     
    #52 jonathan.borland, Mar 5, 2012
  13. Ed B

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    I answered it in a general way as i would if someone asked if I am a Baptists. Yes, but that label has lots of wiggle room and many Calvinist/Baptist might not consider me a good or fully compliant Calvinist/Baptist depending on the issue of the day.
     
    #53 Ed B, Mar 5, 2012
  14. jonathan.borland

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    Thanks for voting. The ratio of non-Cal to Cal so far is roughly 3:2.
     
    #54 jonathan.borland, Mar 6, 2012
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    He requires us to have faith in order to accept jesus and get saved, he also knows NONE of us have it within ourselves, so He grants that as a gift towards His elect!
     
    #55 DaChaser1, Mar 7, 2012
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    Although my pastor is a Calvinist, I am not. It is the only Baptist church within 50 miles of me.
     
    #56 Jon-Marc, Mar 8, 2012
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    ^^^not a Calvinist^^^
     
    #57 menageriekeeper, Mar 8, 2012
  18. jonathan.borland

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    Thanks for taking time to vote. Currently of BB members who decided to participate in the poll, more consider themselves non-Calvinists by a ratio of 6:3.
     
    #58 jonathan.borland, Mar 8, 2012
  19. jonathan.borland

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    Thanks for voting. Now there are 37 who have elected. The question is, was their vote predetermined or simply foreknown?
     
    #59 jonathan.borland, Mar 12, 2012
  20. Michael Wrenn

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    :laugh: :laugh:
     
    #60 Michael Wrenn, Mar 12, 2012
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