Are You Really Ready for the World to be Ruled by Bankers?

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  1. poncho

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    Believe it or not, Citigroup announced on Friday that it would move its headquarters from New York to the actual U.S. Capitol Building, in Washington, D.C., in early 2015. Yes! They might as well had since they got everything they wanted.. Could you imagine Citi outbid JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs to lease thirty thousand square feet of prime real estate on the floor of the House of Representatives.

    This is just jumping off the cliff. Not only did these people grease enough palms to repeal Dodd Frank, they are now virtually leasing space right in the Capital Building and managed to increase the donation limitation from $32,400 to $324,000. They own Congress.

    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/14/are-you-really-ready-for-the-world-to-be-ruled-by-bankers/

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=citigroup+capitol+building
     
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    1Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.…

    Yehovah is will always be the World Ruler, don't you agree?
     
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    Newbie huh?

    We've all seen this portion of scripture taken out of context with the rest of the bible and twisted before.

    It won't work here.
     
  4. matt wade

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    Too bad you aren't able to differentiate satire from reality. Talk about newbies.
     
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    What Choice Do We Have?

    The bottom line for the vast majority of us is that there is an extremely high price to be paid for independence from fealty to the State or Corporate America.

    It's jolly good fun to discuss alternatives to the doomed status quo, but what choice do most of us have to participating in the current system, even if we loathe it? The lack of choice is of course a key characteristic of the status quo-- if alternatives were plentiful, how many would opt out of Corporate America and the Financial Nobility's manor house of debt servitude?

    The absence of alternatives results from several interacting dynamics.The first is false choice, the illusion of choice that enables the Powers That Be to claim we live in a democracy that is also a meritocracy where anyone can rise to the top if they follow the prescribed pathway: a four-year university degree, followed by a graduate degree, and so on.

    The political slaughterhouse has two entrances: Democratic and Republican. Nothing about the system changes regardless of which door you enter. "Democracy" is a false choice in a nation in which the big banks order their politico flunkies, toadies and lackeys to do their bidding: Fed Vice Chairman Shocked At Wall Street Influence After Jamie Dimon "Whips" Congressional Votes.

    Going to college is also a false choice, given that those who choose not to get a 4-year degree are (we're assured) doomed to lifelong financial insecurity. Meanwhile, having a 4-year degree does little to guarantee an escape from lifelong financial insecurity.

    The second factor is the status quo grants all the advantages to global corporations and the central state.The mechanisms used to enforce these advantages are both numerous and well-masked. One is cheap, limitless access to capital--what I call free money for financiers. Imagine how many profitable assets you could buy if you too could borrow $1 billion at .25% interest from the Federal Reserve or another central bank.

    Several of these mechanisms are described in these articles, recommended by correspondent Chad D. (transnational is another way of saying global):

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-15/what-choice-do-we-have
     
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    Just going to ignore and act like you didn't fall for a satire bit, huh poncho?
     
  7. matt wade

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    :sleeping_2::sleeping_2:
     
  8. poncho

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    Sometimes I get busy with life outside Baptist Board Matt.

    Satire? The article yes. In real life the banks do rule the world.

    See my signature line. How do governments get money?

    They borrow it from a private banking cartel.

    See my signature line.
     
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    If you don't have the time to make sure your posts are accurate, maybe you shouldn't post?
     
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    Maybe you should post more of your own threads instead of just telling others what's wrong with their threads?
     
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    I guess you just like to play it safe right?
     
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    :laugh: :thumbsup: Well said!
     
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    Sure, maybe I can follow your example and post conspiracy theories and satires as truth?
     
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    Sometimes satire exposes the truth.

    “The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they’re an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They’ve got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying * lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.” - George Carlin

    After the disgusting example of politicians of both spineless parties bowing down before Wall Street, the military industrial complex and corporate interests this weekend with the passage of a bloated pig of a spending bill totaling $1.1 trillion, how can anyone not on the payroll of the vested interests not admit there is only one party – and it serves only the interests of the wealthy business interests. Obama, champion of the common folk, signed this putrid example of political corruption and corporate capture of the American political system. For all the believers who voted for the red team in the November mid-terms, this is what you got – a bipartisanship screwing of the American people.

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/pigmen-win.html

    Maybe you should just stick to closing your eyes and repeating the establishment talking points the corporations broadcast over their 6 conglomerated media networks.

    You seem to have a knack for it.
     
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    I seem to have a knack for it? I challenge you to show examples where I tout some type of "party line" or buy into the media hype from either the left or the right.

    We probably agree on more issues than you realize. I simply don't buy into all the conspiracy theories you throw around. You buy in blindly to your select group of websites just the same as you accuse others of doing with mainstream media.
     
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    So, what's the answer, Poncho? I see post after post of yours touting how we're ruled or governed by corporations or the oligarchy. But what's the answer? How do we change it? I'll be brutally honest; even if you're right, I'm comfortable now. I have a job, a car, a house. I am not wealthy, but I'm not lacking.



    I look to the liberals, and they're wrong. I look to the conservatives, and they're closer, but still often wrong. If it as you say doesn't matter who we vote for, then I might as well just live my life and let the powers that be do their thing. If I can't change it, and I'm comfortable, why try?



    So, what's the answer?
     
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    I've often said that there will be no change until we can longer afford SUVs and big screen TVs bought on credit.

    Maybe the answer is to lose everything. That sadly might be what it takes to wake people up to what's been going on since 1913.

    Why try? For the sake of future generations maybe? .

    Meanwhile back at the ranch . . .

    The NY money center Banks won again in Washington, the second time in a single month. They succeeded in repealing Dodd-Frank and have now succeeded in repealing the Volcker Rule, which it is officially put on “delay” that will be permanent. The Federal Reserve has repealed the Volcker Rule that will let the highly speculative banks hold onto billions of dollars in private-equity and hedge-fund investments for at least two more years until it is delayed again if not just forgotten about silently.

    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/19/banks-win-again-delay-repeal-volcker-rule/




     
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    It’s Official: The Worldwide Bail-ins Are Coming

    In case you missed the announcement, Cyprus-style bail-ins are coming to a bank near you.

    On November 16, leaders of the G20 Group of Nations – the 20 largest economies – made an important decision. The world’s megabanks now have official permission to pledge depositor accounts as collateral to make leveraged derivative bets. And if they lose a bet, the counterparty to the contract has first dibs on your money.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/mark-nestmann/worldwide-bail-ins-are-coming/
     
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    I will be honest; I am not sure what that means. It doesn't sound good, but I really don't know enough to be sure.
     
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    It means the global bankster's winnings are privatized and their loses are socialized.

    What that means is that the leaders of the free world agree that when a global bank loses a bet you pay for it all but if the bank wins the bet they get to keep all the winnings.

    Heads I win tails you lose.

    Sweet!
     
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