Are you right on all doctrine?

You didn't need to bring up names because it was obvious. You say "others" have believed the same thing...however, what you stated in post #3 contradicts this:

One poster? Then you narrowed it down more to gender by using "He"...therefore you said "one poster" and that poster is a "he". Then you got even more specific when you narrowed it down even more by calling him "self-righteous".

You seem to be contradicting yourself here, Dale.

 

Ever think the "he" could be someone other than your husband? Oh wait...you are agreeing that the "self righteous" monicker is what did it?

Birds of a feather...

 

open your eyes webdog.

Dale has been arguing with me in practically every thread I have posted in. Funny thing is, not arguing with others. He made specific remarks about things I have said. He mentioned the poster being 'self-righteous' the same claim he has accused me of falsely (none others have been accused of such by Dale lately).

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who he is referring to.

Or with some, maybe it does.

 

Absolutely not...but I never mentioned any names and Dale didn't need to mention any names either.

 

Actually, I'm convinced that, through God's grace and the transformation brought about by discipleship and Spirit-life, one can go for significant periods of time (yes, more than 24 hours) without sinning. I have publicly stated this belief on at least a couple of occasions. And I am also a "he" and have a decided tendency toward self-righteousness which is all too often on display here.

When I first read Dale's comment, I had to consider whether or not he was talking about me. :tear:

 

I disagree. Doctrine, as it is understood in our churches, is the teaching of Jesus Christ and His Apostles. There are many conclusions that are drawn from the principles and precepts of the Word of God that are not necessarily doctrine.

 

According to the Word of God, with every temptation God provides a way to escape. So, it is literally possible to go for a period of time without sinning. However, I know that I have not always taken the way of escape when tempted. So, although it is possible to go without sinning, it is highly improbable that any man will.

 

In a 24 hr period, most people sleep. Dreams can be sin. With this, I can't see how someone could say they can go 24 hours without sinning. One would need to remain awake imo

 

Dreams are not sin. A person cannot control their dreams.

 

How can dreams be sin?

If the person dwells on them after they awake, yeah, but while asleep, we are not in control what we dream...

I am starting a new thread... so it won't derail this one.

 

They certainly can be. But they are not necessarily so.

The content of one's dreams (in my opinion) are largely the expression of one's character, concerns and proclivities. If one's character is being successfully transformed and one's current concerns revolve around God-oriented and Spirit-filled desires, one's dreams will not likely involve sin.

If we could not avoid sin for any specific amount of time (as mature disciples of Christ), they why would Jesus instruct us to do it?

I hate to do it, but I have stayed awake more than 24 hours at a time on a number of occasions.

 

Amen, Pastor Bob.

Something one refers to as a false doctrine is not true doctrine. True doctrine is that which is accordance with the Word of God.

False does mean artificial, imitation, lie, et. al. IOW, it is not a doctrine.

 

I understand what you are saying, but I have set under pastors that have elevated stuff to the level of doctrine, thus making new doctrine.

 

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The definition of doctrine from dictionary.com


doc·trine /ˈdɒktrɪn/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dok-trin] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a particular principle, position, or policy taught or advocated, as of a religion or government: Catholic doctrines; the Monroe Doctrine. 2.something that is taught; teachings collectively: religious doctrine. 3.a body or system of teachings relating to a particular subject: the doctrine of the Catholic Church.


As you can see, anything a church teaches is doctrine....
Even KJVO... although some see it as a false doctrine, if it is taught that the KJV is the only acceptable Bible, it has become a doctrine.

 

taking a secular dictionary to define what Church doctrine is?

 

From Websters 1828...

Doctrine
DOCTRINE, n. [L., to teach.]
1. In a general sense, whatever is taught. Hence, a principle or position in any science; whatever is laid down as true by an instructor or master. The doctrines of the gospel are the principles or truths taught by Christ and his apostles. The doctrines of Plato are the principles which he taught. Hence a doctrine may be true or false; it may be a mere tenet or opinion.
2. The act of teaching.
He taught them many things by parables, and said to them in his doctrine. Mark 4.
3. Learning; knowledge.
Whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Isa 28.
4. The truths of the gospel in general.
That they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things. Titus 2.
5. Instruction and confirmation in the truths of the gospel. 2 Tim 3.

 

From the KJV Dictionary

Doctrine
The act or result of teaching.