Thanks for the discussion John. You are quite refreshing to discuss with for a "KJVer". Very very true. Being angry for a selfish reason is already a sin. I would like for you to think about this: Is being angry over a wrong done (such as the one we are discussing), but for a selfish reason, any less wrong than ignoring a wrong when one should speak up? I think you would agree in the negative, that both are wrong. Its a balance: we must stand against Christians who profess binding beliefs yet refuse to allow them to be challenged and discussed because even though you and I may have the firmness of mind and will to ignore it, some Christians dont. Example: There are only 2 issues that ever caused major problems for kids in my youth group: KJVO and calvanism. Mine and your opinions on the matters aside, every problem came from people who held these beliefs stating categorically that everyone was bound to believe as they do, and if they didnt God would judge them. How does this sound to a 13 year old girl who's been saved for 3 weeks? They werent trying to teach her, they were trying to INDOCTRINATE her, overpower her. I see the same things from over the top fundamentalist preachers who think if you tell someone they are going to hell enough times, they will accept Christ. I feel its dishonest as a Christian to engage in such tactics, and I feel anyone convinced by such methods will never truely believe said idea at all unless more honest discussion or research is takes place. This makes me angry for them, because they feel guilted into a belief, but they dont really BELIEVE it. You can DO something or SAY something because of COERSION, but it is impossible to BELIEVE something by such means. The only product is confusion. Thoughts? As do I, but I feel you and I are hardheaded, and some of our milder mannered Christians are more susceptable to these tactics. I feel my anger comes from defense of them. When one puts forth a belief in such ways, using guilt and misleading evidence, such as many do in the bible translation discussion, I feel for every false statement made on this board, 10 more are made to real people in an attempt to convince them. How do you propose we handle that, or is it even our responsiblity to try? Thoughts? I think I am the same way, as I stated already, I dont feel angered for me at all because I dont care what someone THINKS if they cant back it up with facts. Since younger people dont see us in these situations often, how do you think we can teach younger Christians to handle this as we do? Possibly the most important fact to remember in any theological discussion. I have said this for years, becoming a Christian is volunteering to give up alot of rights guaranteed to us by being an American. I think this is the first step to becoming a selfless Christian, and the first step to being able to EDUCATE others when it comes to bible translational beliefs, and not CONVINCE them. I encourage you to expound on your thought here. Yes, I agree (of course) and I think its a difficult line to walk. On one hand, people like me feel very compelled to stand against false teaching so that others who do not have such attention to detail, or perhaps just arent as mature in their faith, are looked out for. I feel as a youth pastor, its my duty. What do you think about this? Where is the line drawn? When does it change from being a "false teaching" to being a "false teacher"? I dont mean to intrude upon your time, this kinda became longer than I thought. Answer to dont answer at your leisure. Thanks for your time!