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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Baptistas, Aug 18, 2004.
Whether there are churches Baptists, which do not trust, what Jesus Christ there was a God?
Baptistas---this is the first time I've read your posts----please forgive me but I'm not quiet sure what you are asking!
Are you asking---"What do Baptists believe about Jesus Christ?"
John 1: 14 says, "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
Simply put---Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh and will always dwell among us throughout all eternity in His humanity!
I know, that so trust baptists. But I ask, whether and it happens so, that baptists do not trust that Jesus Christ the God?
Humm,Blackbird, pray let me translate this into southern for y'all.
Russian has neither definite or indefinite articles or the verb to be in the present tense (i.e. no is/are). I proof read my wife's (Anna Georgievna) written English all the time for these errors. Added to the mix is the problem of going from good theological Russian to good theological English.
But in answer to moy brat's question, no, there are no Baptists that hold to that heresy .
So, what you are saying---Squire---is that all Baptists believe that Jesus is God come in flesh! I just can't see as to how anybody can ever be saved unless they do know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus is God in flesh!!
But our brother is Russian and has had little contact with Baptists in the West. To them, we are full of wierd ideas. Among them, grape juice for Lord's Supper (vat part of vine, don't you understand), sitting when praying (they either kneel or stand, they are talking to the King), only one preacher in a service (ve get more food), and I won't even go into the clothing, headcovering, jewlery, and lipstick issues.
Squire Robertsson, thank you.
I saw on one Unitarists a site the book against the doctrine that Jesus Christ the God. And the foreword to this book has written baptist.
Unfortunately, I do not have text in English, therefore surname can be written by me not correctly.
But the foreword (with a praise of the book against Jesus Christ is God) was written by Sydney Hutch (or Hatch?),
The bachelor of arts (UCLA),
magistr of divinity (American Baptist a seminary of West),
magistr of theology (Theological seminary of Dallas).
Such can be?
It doesn't make sense, does it? Many people here assume the title without having the beliefs. That's why so many people are fooled into believing that they are "okay."
In the United States, there are many groups of Baptists, with different beliefs. Some take the Bible very seriously, and some not so seriously. However, I know of no GROUP of Baptists which would agree with the man you mention. Judging from the schools he attended, with the possible exception of the school from Dallas, he would be very unlikely to have gotten good Biblical training at those schools. As for the Dallas school, there are several theological schools in Dallas. THE "Dallas Theological Seminary" is a very good and orthodox school, but there are others in the city by similar names.
On another subject, do you know of a Baptist preacher from Irkutsk whose name is Sergey Mochalov? He has sent electronic mails to me, and I do not know who he is.
I did a little research on Sidney Hatch, and he was once a liberal Baptist, but has joined one of the Armstrong offshoots, and has become an out-and-out Socinian, writing favorably of the Racovian Confession, which is fully Arian. He is not a Baptist now.
Major B, thank you, brother!
About Sergey Mochalov I nothing know. Irkutsk very much far...
It is a truth that Jesus is, and was, and will always be God. Anyone who denies this is not a Baptist.
I have also discovered that just because someone attended a certain school does not mean that he has remained true to the teachings of that school. A man who graduated from Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri (a very strongly Baptist school) has some years later left the Baptist faith and become a Russian Orthodox priest.
This was totally contrary to the teachings he received at BBC. In the graduation service each year, we were told that if at any time we no longer held to these Baptist doctrines, we should send the diploma back to the college. This man did not do this, as he should have.