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Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Jack Matthews, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. Jack Matthews

    Jack Matthews New Member

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    After deciding to be a third party voter during the mid-terms (with a couple of exceptions) I may have actually found a candidate I can vote for in the 2008 Presidential race. After reading the news reports on Mike Huckabee, and doing some research on him, I think I could cast a ballot for him. He seems to have come to the realistic conclusion that Bushanomics for the wealthy is not the way to run the economy, and he doesn't appear to be afraid to take realistic stands and support issues that are practical, whether they have a lot of vote-getting power or not.

    He's consistent on the sanctity of human life, has an excellent record on welfare reform, has seen the disaster next door in Texas regarding runaway insurance rates and property taxes, and has avoided dragging his state down the same path. He's a professing Christian, a former Baptist pastor, who isn't afraid to take a stand for what he believes, without being offensive or arrogant about it.

    Anybody else have an opinion on Mike? I like him better than Brownback, who is a lobbyists dream.
     
  2. KenH

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    Governor Busybody has been my governor. I can't stand him.

    He thinks everybody should lose weight just because he recently did so.


    www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/03/AR2006050300053.html

    His policy toward wanting to give taxpayer dollars to illegal aliens's children to attend college is horrible.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n15193908, www.katv.com/news/stories/0805/249679.html

    His policy toward releasing criminals is despicable.

    www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_28_04/huckabee6.html, and do a search on the Wayne Dumond case.

    His trashing of computer hard drives(what was he hiding?) and depleting the governor office's emergency fund just before he left office should be investigated and he should make finanacial restitution to the taxpayers of Arkansas.

    www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=40386

    I wouldn't vote for Huckabee for dog catcher.
     
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    I fully support Huckabee for President!

    I didn't like everything he did as governor, but I do appreciate a lot of his efforts and his willingness to be open-minded on many issues.
     
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    I find it hilarious that people would be against Huckabee because he lost weight and has an opinion on the weight problems in our country. If that is the only reason you have against him, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
     
  5. KenH

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    You might want to look at the three more substantive complaints I have about Huckabee. I don't think that you will find them to be funny.

    I threw in the weight thing because that is how I got him nicknamed by our local radio talk show host last year. I had emailed the host about this health jihad that Huckabee has been on and referred to him as Governor Busybody - which the host has often used in referring to Huckabee since then(he did so just this morning).

    Fortunately, the Arkansas legislature is in the process of removing Huckabee's silly Body Mass Index program from the state's schools.
     
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    ==In my opinion I think we should start a major, nationwide, campaign to show people what is in all that fast food they eat and to show them what it is doing to their bodies. I am always amazed at Christians who eat at Burger King, Taco Bell, or McDonalds everyday yet who will quickly condemn someone for smoking. I see no difference. People should stop with the fast food and sodas, slow down on the red meat and fried foods, eat more vegitables, and drink more water. we don't get as much physical exercise as our grandparents did so we need to make sure that we have a better daily diet then they did. And that is what we need better "daily" diets. When I see a line at the McDonalds I just shake my head. One thing, out of many, that I like about Charles Stanley is that he is not afraid to stand in front of his church and tell the truth about this. And he can because he is in good physical condition for a man of his age.

    However I don't want government forcing people to lose weight. I don't think it is bad idea, however, for government to bring the issue to people's minds. A society that is over-weight is a unhealthy society.
     
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    And you might want to stop bringing up the weight loss thing everytime his name is mentioned, it just makes you look silly.

    If you have legitimate reasons to not support him, then that is completely your right, but leave the weight thing alone.

    It always amazes me to see how people bash someone who loses weight and actually has an opinion on the issue. I guess it makes them feel guilty for their issues.
     
  8. Jack Matthews

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    Ken, after reading the articles you cite, I'm even more convinced about Huckabee's qualifications than I was before. He may be a bit eccentric about the weight loss thing, which can be annoying, but he's right, and there's nothing wrong with a good emphasis on healthy eating, especially in schools. Gee, if the Razorback cheerleaders are any example of the overweight condition of kids in Arkansas schools, a program like that is desperately needed. ;-)

    I've read Huckabee's explanations for the clemencies and commutations he's granted. It's hard to argue with genuine Christian grace and mercy, though in practice, obviously, he has learned the hard lesson that Christian principles cannot be applied to the operations of state or federal government. Even those on the religious right who advocate such don't necessarily agree with their consistent application. It's only when an application serves their own self interest that they're in favor of it. I have to admire Huckabee for sincerely giving it a try. Admitting that one of your policies hasn't worked as you thought is a whole lot better, in my opinion, than pulling a Bush and promising things you have no intention of ever delivering.

    Most Christians of the religious right aren't interested in seeing the applications of the core values of their faith applied to government. They are more interested in things that punish people who differ with them, and restrict the rights of people who don't share their convictions than they are in genuine grace, mercy, forgiveness and love. Still, Huckabee's more liberal economic policy might resonate with enough moderates to at least get him the Republican nomination. I don't think a Republican stands a snowball's chance on a hot stove of even running a close race in the electoral college in '08, but Huckabee would be a much better choice than any Republican who has thrown his hat into the ring at present.
     
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    So you like Huckabee's "liberal economic policy", eh? Personally, I don't like socialism. If you do, that's fine. Huckabee might just be the man for you to support. :)
     
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    Okay, I won't bring it up any more.
     
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    Concerning Huckabee using $13,000 of taxpayers money to destroy state property:

    Luke 16:10 (ESV)
    "One who is faithful in a very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much.
     
  12. Lagardo

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    I lived in Arkansas from 2000 to 2006. I liked a lot of what Huckabee did and compared to other Baptist Governors I know...he's consistent with his beliefs for the most part.

    I also think that in many ways, he streamlined government in Arkansas...something I appreciate more and more every time I go to the DMV in Missouri...yes, SBCPreacher I know, I know I have to get it registered.

    Unfortunately, I also remember a small controversey involving "Bo" Adams giving the Governor's Mansion all new furniture. Of course, it was kept in private storage and never reported by the huckabee's as a gift. Once it was discovered, Mike and Bo both claimed it was for the mansion, not a personal gift and the furniture was moved to the mansion. The whole thing made me question Mike's integrity. So even though I really like some things about him, I have a hard time trusting him.

    And SBC... I'm sorry if I have given you a hard time regarding weight loss. I too will be watching what I eat starting tomorrow.
     
  13. Jack Matthews

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    Got a vehicle you need to register in Missouri, Lagardo? Well, up there around Birch Tree, you ought to be able to get away with that for a while longer.

    That's God's country. I took my 17 year old brother, and 16 year old brother in law canoeing up there near Eminence last summer, and then we camped and fished and went tubing at Montauk State Park near Salem. On the way home, we spent a couple of nights in Van Buren (in a motel to get some rest by then) and did some fishing around there, too. That's the most beautiful countryside in the world, I think.
     
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    Thanks! We love it here. I grew up just 100 miles west and never knew how nice it was out this way. If you ever come up again, be sure to let me know.

    As for the car in question, it has spent more time in the shop than it has on the road since moving here which explains some of my delay. It mostly goes from the parsonage to the church and maybe around "downtown Birch Tree" so, you are right, its probably ok. That is until I go to meet an area pastor on down highway 60...then I'm at the mercy of the MO Highway Patrol.
     
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    :laugh: That is PastorSBC to you :wavey:

    I am sure you will get it registered eventually.

    No way, you haven't at all. I just get tired of reading some have issues with Huckabee over his weight loss and thoughts on it. I just find it silly.

    :)
     
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    You came right through my back yard Jack. It is beautiful country, I consider myself blessed to live in such a beautiful place. Let me know if you come back through here.
     
  17. Jack Matthews

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    Oh, I'm sure we'll be back. We're going to Sedona, Arizona this summer, but Southeast Missouri is really just a short hop from Nashville, not a bad half day's drive, almost worth it for a long weekend.

    What's the hunting like? Probably pretty crowded, I'd guess.
     
  18. Lagardo

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    Doh!

    I was confused...especially with news reports of you resigning from FBC Daytona Beach! :thumbs:
     
  19. Lagardo

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    I am very new to hunting...picked it up with this pastorate. I have had the privledge of hunting on private property because church members took pitty on the pastor who knew so little about hunting.

    There is plenty of public land around, so although it may get a little crowded, I haven't heard that its too bad. I've heard complaints about the draw hunts, but I think you could find a nice little place in the national forest.
     
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    I think Mike Huckabee would be a great President, that is if he is running for President of Mexico.The Huckster does have a lot of explaining to do about turning killers lose on the streets and the computor hard drive fiasco, Mike is good at passing the buck and dodging blame.
     
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