Arkansas Razorbacks - SEC WEST DIVISION CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!

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  1. KenH

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    Congratulations to all of the Razorback players, coaching staff, and everyone who brought this championship to the team.


    THE ARKANSAS RAZORBACKS
    SEC WEST DIVISION CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!
     
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    Congrats and good luck against the Gators in Atlanta.
     
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    Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


    Pig!

    Sooiee!

    Razorbacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    And should Arkansas win out in the SEC and it's predicated bowl game, we'll never hear the end of it from Joseph, right?? Just remember Joseph, 'Slick Willie' and 'Ms. Hillary' are fans, as well! :BangHead: :tongue3: :laugh: :laugh:

    Ed
     
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    Well, Mrs. Clinton isn't a fan, but Bill is a huge fan and a tenured professor :thumbs:

    We all have black sheep in our families.

    Gore once claimed to be a UT fan. But it went downhill for the Vandy dropout and Harvard grad when he claimed to invent UT, Smokey and Rocky Top :thumbs:
     
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    :laugh: :laugh:

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    That would make it a scary place to send your daughter.
     
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    Congrats to Arkansas... and deepest sympathies.

    No matter how it plays out, I fully expect Arkansas to be the last in a series of "done wrongs" by the BCS and bowls.

    If loses to UF... they won't get a BCS bid though probably more deserving than the loser of ND-USC.

    If they win then they won't jump the ND-USC winner or Michigan... and maybe not even one of the BE one loss teams by the time its all said and done.

    Again, the lesson should be vivid to all coaches, RUN THE SCORE UP. Fulmer didn't and just a few weeks ago Cal was still in the BCSCG discussion. Carroll did and no one gives Arkansas anything more than a pat on the head.

    The standing of the whole SEC has been harmed by Arkansas' performance rightly or wrongly. After getting smacked around by a SC team that was hardly dominant in the Pac10, Arkansas ran the table in the SEC west. That says to the national media and voters... the SEC isn't that good.

    It really doesn't matter that all of the other Pac10 teams got manhandled by the SEC teams they played.

    The only SEC team with a shot at the NCG is UF. If they blew Arkansas out as bad or worse than SC then they might at least jump them if not Michigan. But... UF isn't that good and Arkansas is alot better than they were.

    You guys have been speculating about coaches... How long do you think Meyer has before the Gators notice the offensive talent he's squandering?

    I think the most points his offense has scored against an SEC defense was 21. They lose some of their better defensive players next year. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the DC's on the team get offered HC jobs. Next year could easily go back to the norm established by Zook in Gainesville.

    What they hail as good news but might not be so good is that Meyer will finally have his kind of offense next year. No matter how big and tough Tebow is, he won't be able to stand the week in, week out abuse leveled by SEC caliber LB's and DL's. Meyer got away with making his QB a runner against the MWC and MAC.

    Can he really do it against the SEC? If he can't and the defense isn't there to bail him out... What do you think?
     
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    I have noticed that they recognize that Arkansas has had a complete makeover since the Southern Cal game.

    The college football presidents signed on to the BCS system. It runs through 2009, I think, and I doubt anything will change until then.

    With losing very few starters, if Arkansas wins out, I would hope the Hogs would start off in the top ten next season, if not the top five. Then they will have their opportunity to make the BCS championship game.
     
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    I don't know. An AP article I read today criticized ARK more for their weak non-conference schedule not counting USC (two teams that have combined for 3 wins and a third school that's I-AA). Some will say that, if both teams finish with equal records, USC is better than ARK because USC beat ARK head-to-head. I disagree since I think that it happened so long ago that it may not be fair to judge. I'd say the same thing re: CAL vs UT. Just because we beat Cal back on week 1 doesn't mean we're better than them now.
    Agreed.
    Agreed, and it's a slim one. People are salivating at the chance to shove USC, ND or MICH down our throats.
    I don't know. I think he's probably in the upper echelon of coaches in the SEC right now. He's gotten some breaks this year. I still say Auburn didn't beat Florida...Florida beat Florida. But that goes to your point, doesn't it? I don't see Meyer as a Les Miles yet, but I'm willing to stay tuned. The one thing Meyer has right now is the state of Florida all to himself. Anyone really think FSU or Miami looks good to recruits right now? That may change next year when one or both have new schemes to lure recruits, but Meyer should have no problem hauling in a top 3 recruiting class.
     
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    Guess who found out today that he will be going to see the SEC WEST DIVISION CHAMPIONS play LSU this weekend. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!


    PIG SOOIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    The BCS had the computer rankings remove margin of victory. So I reckon that means that they expect the human voters to do so as well. I'm not sure how well that works with the humans.
     
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    Congrats! Yell LOUD!!!!
     
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    Coaches and reporters/media members vote in the polls. How many football games do the coaches watch? The one they're involved in. How many games do the media members watch? Usually the one involving the team they're the beat writer for. So how do they judge a game? Final score. I know margin of victory isn't supposed to count, but it does when all the game gets is a glance.
     
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    Reporters, like most of us, will also watch games of national interest. The SEC/Pac10 matchups were like that. Most probably didn't see Arkansas' improved play and wins over Aub, UT, and So Car. But that foggy night where SC rumbled all over the Hogs home pen is etched on their brains.

    I think margin of victory should count up to say 14 to 21 points. After that, its just piling on. But had UT stayed one-loss, there is no way that one point loss to UF should have been as critical as ND's blowout against Mich or even Texas' loss to OSU.

    Also, quality losses should be figured in just like quality wins. A team should be less damaged by losing to a ranked team than if they lose to a mid-pack team like SC did.
     
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    A great effort by the Hogs today that fell just a tad short against what the experts say is the most talented football team in the SEC - maybe the entire country. It's interesting that with all of this superior talent load that the Tigers have won by only 2 and 5 points the past two seasons. I wonder if that speaks poorly for Les Miles?

    Anywho, many in the Hog Nation are absolutely livid that Houston Nutt acted nutty by leaving Casey(3 for 17) Dick in for the entire game - especially when it was clear that the Hogs had to pass on their last possession when he had a Parade All-American quarterback - Mitch Mustain - on the sidelines who is undefeated as a starter this season. I am puzzled by this, also, as Nutt said that he had a quick trigger finger as his justification for pulling Mustain after one series against South Carolina. Where was even the slow trigger finger today?

    Needless to say, today's poor coaching performance by Nutt has re-animated the FIRE NUTT! bunch in the Hog Nation. It will interesting to see if Nutt will be looking to go elsewhere, especially if things go poorly in the SEC championship game next week.

    Oh well, there's no use in allowing poor coaching by Nutt today to spoil a great season by the players. Again, congrats to the Hogs for being the SEC West Division CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!
     
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    LSU played a great game. I don't want to diminish their efforts.

    Arkansas, however, did not play well at all. There was no balance at all. Basically, Arkansas had McFadden, Jones, and a couple good forced fumbles. I must say that the much-hyped offensive game was absolutely terrible today because it was one-dimensional. That being said, that one dimension (wildcat formation) should not have been abandoned in crunch time. Why in the world didn't they run out of the wildcat when Casey Dick's play was abysmal?? And why did they go deep so much on that last drive??

    You can't help but think that McFadden and Jones must be furious with the rest of the players--dropped passes, underthrown/overthrown passes, blown coverages, pointless penalties. LSU just outplayed all of the Razorbacks except the RBs, and those RBs could only do so much.
     
  18. KenH

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    Yep. LSU played their A game and the Hogs played at best their B- game. Yet they still only lost by 5 points in spite of Nutt's stubbornness in not inserting Mustain.
     
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    IMO,

    LSU played their B+ game (would be an A except for the run defense)

    Arkansas as a whole: B-

    Arkansas without McFadden/Jones: C-

    McFadden/Jones: A+

    Casey Dick: F

    Houston Nutt: F
     
  20. KenH

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    When McFadden and Jones are both running wild I'm not sure that an NFL defense can stop the running game.

    Remember, LSU has future NFL talent on their defense - seriously.
     

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