Featured Arrogance or Contending for the Truth?

At the time I was in a premill church that did not go to this extreme also....but there are others that have.More the fundamentalist types.
What has your church taught on postmill or amill teaching SW?

 

What kind of question is that? Why would a church who believes that their position is the Biblical one teach on a position that they believe is unbiblical.

Even the KJVO camp doesn't teach on modern versions except to call them out
as translations of the devil (and I am not KJVO). Its just an example.

 

DHK

here was the exchange you question;

On a scale of 1-10......the people have rated it a 9.0:thumbsup:
Why you say?......If his church has not spoken in this way about these other views I wanted to know what they have taught concerning these views:wavey:

That is a wonderful follow up question.

In a healthy church this is exactly what is done from time to time. Perhaps you have not experienced this:thumbs:

A Pastor or teacher who has studied properly should not shrink back from looking at all truth. As historically other views have been held by the majority the people should have some understanding on this.
Many premill pastors fear that when the people learn of these things [other eschatological positions] they will no longer be able to control them or deal with the questions that arise from such an open study, expecially non confessional churches which have no firm guideline to begin with...

 

No, sometimes one has to take a couple steps back in order to go a step forward. That was posted simply for the Preterists and Amillennialists which abound here that do deny the Second Coming before the Millennial Kingdom, and in fact deny any such thing as a thousand year reign of our Lord.

 

Then set your heart on a Bible College or Seminary, not a local church. As a pastor I would not poison my people's minds with amillenialism or postmillennialism. What they need is the truth of God's Word.
Besides that, I expound the Scripture. I go through it book by book, passage by passage, verse by verse. You will never find amillennialism or postmillennialism with the simple exposition of the Bible. It is a man-made concoction.

I gave you an example from another discipline.
Would you teach your people the benefits of KJVOism?
Would you teach your people the benefits of becoming a Charismatic?

If the position is wrong, why allow it from the pulpit? Never!
Billy Graham puts his arm around the Catholic Bishop and says: "This man believes just like I do."
Would you allow a Catholic Bishop to preach from your pulpit if you are the pastor?

 

The Triune Godhead reigns eternally and that is the truth.

 

John Nelson Darby and Pre-trib-dispensationalism

That is false! Pre-trib-dispensationalism is a man made concoction and the man who concocted it was John Nelson Darby as I have shown numerous times on this BB. One must twist and contort Scripture in order to get that false doctrine. Darby claimed he got it out of Isaiah 32!

Jesus Christ is reigning now and that is what Scripture teaches.

Matthew 28:16-18, NASB
16. But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated.
17. And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.
18. And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Ephesians 1:19-23
19. And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
20. Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21. Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22. And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23. Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

1 Peter 3:21, 22
21. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22. Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

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Does he admit the Christ is coming before the Millennial Kingdom?
Or does he deny that fact?
That is the question.

 

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Brother Reformed,




Your thread now....

 

That's an interesting question, and one I'll answer truthfully. From the pulpit there is little to no teaching on other doctrines, other than to acknowledge that they exist. In Sunday School and Bible studies, however, other doctrines are examined topically. Obviously, they are examined and explained by one with an opposing viewpoint to them.



But, as has been mentioned, if a church believes something (KJVO, Cal/Arm, pre-mil/other, OSAS, etc), they aren't going to dwell and teach much on the opposing viewpoint. Rather, they're going to show their viewpoint and why they believe that way.

 

All we know for sure is Christ is coming again. The rest pre, post, a mil, pre trib post trib is pure conjecture. Hal Lindsey made millions off the pre trib, pre mil theory. Here it is 50 years later, and nothing happened on his time table.

 

Harold Camping should be making another prediction any day now...

 

I have no problem discussing end times doctrine. What I do have a problem with is folks who make it an essential issue when it is not. In fact, no position can make a clear cut Biblical case.

 

I think I understand each of the models and the verses that back them up, the problem is there are verses to back all of them up. I am reformed also, and quite frankly, I cannot see how one lines up better than another. What do you think is the best match? I am going to guess not the premil, pretrib.