Assault Weapons Ban?

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  1. DeclareHim

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    Wasn't the assault weapons ban lifted. I hope so I have shot a M-16 from an ex-military friend and they are definetly fun guns. Powerful but yet they don't leave your shoulder sore the day after you shoot them. I would like to buy an AK-47 to just mess around with. Any thoughts? What do you guys think about it being lifted.
     
  2. The Galatian

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    The law will expire Monday. You can buy a semiautomatic version of those weapons, and large magazines to go with them.

    If you go to a gun show, you can even buy the kit to make them go fully automatic, although I don't know how legal that is. You might want to check that out before doing anything.

    Mostly, the assault weapons ban was an annoyance to the GI Joe wannabees, who wanted weapons that looked like "real army guns." The ban really didn't do much good, since you could buy semiautomatics just as deadly as the banned ones. A genuine criminal wouldn't be inconvenienced at all. Maybe it saved a few morons from shooting themselves or their friends by accident.

    My recollection of the M-16 was of a cheap, relatively inaccurate weapon. "Matty Mattel" was the nickname they gave it in the AF. Still, it was kinda fun to fire on full auto. It's the only time I ever got to do that, and I have to admit I liked it.

    Go get one and have a ball with it. Just be careful.
     
  3. poncho

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    I thought the "ban" was a dumb idea from the start.

    I had an M16 in the military, it was accurate enough to get the job done it was intended for (out to 300 meters or so) and it was pretty reliable in operation as long as you cleaned and cared for it well. Three round bursts were fun.

    I wouldn't recomend any kits to make a semi auto into a full auto even if it were legal. You can learn to "bump fire" a semi auto AK and fire just as rapidly as a full auto without extra gadgets.

    The action in an ar15 or m16 itself is kept to fairly tight tolerances and is prone to jamming when dirt or sand gets in it.

    The Ak on the OTOH can take wicked punishment and keep right on shooting, although not as accurate it gets high marks in reliability especially when the chips are down.

    I have a Romanian SAR1 in 7.62x39mm. I replaced alot of the Romanian parts with some made in USA and come up with a decent rendition of an AK 103.

    Do yourself a favor and forget about the Ruger mini 14. They are fun an all but my AK is alot more accurate and a whole lot easier to take down and clean! Ammo is cheaper also.

    You can look in Shotgun news for info on military surplus rifles and gear.

    or Krebscustom

    Tapco has some good deals on parts.

    I'm glad the ban sunsets Monday, now maybe I can put that folding stock on my Russian sks that I've waited ten long years to do. ;)
     
  4. TomVols

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    Theoretically, I have no problem with a ban being in place. I need to go refresh myself on the particulars of this particular ban, however, since it's been a few years since this ban actually went into place.
     
  5. The Galatian

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    I don't have any strong feelings about it, either. However, it is an indicator of Bush's character that he has repeatedly said he supports it, at the same time he has made no effort whatever to get Congress to even bring it up for a vote.

    Like abortion, and homosexuality, and many other things, he's trying to play it both ways at once.
     
  6. dianetavegia

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    Well if Petrouka wins in November he can just take over all forms of goverment and outlaw all of the above the very day he is sworn in.
     
  7. Daniel David

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    Peroutka, snicker snicker.
     
  8. shane usry

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    The assault weapons ban did absolutely NOTHING to deter criminals! It was just the first step that Mrs. Clinton took to head in the direction of gun control. Thank God for the NRA and their willingness to fight the bums who attempt to take away our right to defend ourselves. Look at Great Britain...confiscation only helped the criminals. Armed criminals love the idea of unarmed citizens! It didn't work in G B and Australia...and it want work in the USA! Shane
     
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    C'mon shane, if you wanted a rapid-fire semiautomatic, you could have still gotten one. The ban did nothing but outlaw scary-looking stuff.

    It was window-dressing.
     
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    M-16, not a good infantry weapon. AK-47, good weapon--most soldier-proof infantry arm ever made. M-1 Good weapon.

    Remington 870--most popular weapon sold at BX and PX stores in Southeast Asia. For close quarters work or home defense, you can't beat it, loaded with buckshot or shell. Anything or anyone you shoot will go down, no matter how many drugs they have taken.
     
  11. poncho

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    Affirmative Galatian.They banned scary looking stuff. They banned the import of rifles, but they never banned the import of "rifle kits".

    Thats why you could still walk into any gun store around and buy, Ak 47's, L1A1's, FALS, AR 15's, Mini 14's, M1A1's, M14's, SKS's (without that scary looking bayo of course) like a criminal is gonna cry over not having that on his weapon.

    Ah, the government in all it's infinate wisdom told us in effect that we would all be much safer without pistol grips on our AK's. What a joke.

    Sec 922r was easy to get along with, just add a few American made parts to your "illegal" weapon and viola you had a "legal" weapon.

    Shane, don't put to much trust in the NRA, they have been co-opted just like the conservative movement. Socialists and anti gunners couldn't get their way under the label of liberals so they shed it and called themselves conservatives. R's in exchange for D's.

    Anyone still operating in their "right" mind can tell the difference. Although it could be said that under the new patriotism most have forgotten what conservative meant in the 70's and 80's.
     
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    Well well Major B, at least we agree on weaponry. [​IMG]
     
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    Are you intentionally spreading falsehood about Peroutka? He is a firm supporter of the Second Amendment, and would be a strong friend of the gun owner.

    Does the truth matter to you?
     
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    So this would be an area where the GOP and CP agree huh? [​IMG]
     
  15. KenH

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    It is good to bear in mind that the second amendment to the federal constitution does not give us the right to bear arms. We have that right naturally from God. The second amendment, as the purpose of the entire federal constitution, is to protect our God-given rights from the federal government.
     
  16. Daniel David

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    Ken, God does not give us the right to own a gun. Perhaps you could share this delightful information that only you know of (apparently).

    On the contrary, God has ordained governments to rule the people. If a government says no, the answer is no. A person will just have to defend themselves with screwdrivers, hatchets, and other wonderful weapons.
     
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    Why don't we just give away AK-47's on 125th Street in Harlem? Then everyone could find out how much fun they are just to mess around with?
     
  18. KenH

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    We learned about the founding documents of this nation when I was in school. Maybe somewhere along the way you may have read these words if you were educated in quality schools:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

    You see, the whole basis for the founding of these United States of America was that government doesn't grant rights, but that government protects rights. We are born naturally with certain rights, among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Christians generally understood this in years past. In the present day, many do not understand the basis for our government(apparently).
     
  19. Daniel David

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    Oh, right. I asked for you to share your biblical insight and you come back with the Declaration of Independence. Classic. Are you a Razorback fan by chance?
     
  20. KenH

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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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    SOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!

    GO HOGS GO! [​IMG]
     

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