1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Assumptions about Salvation

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Jan 17, 2003.

  1. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,285
    Likes Received:
    507
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I often paint with a "broad brush" and make some generalized comments that may/may not be acceptable to others. So would appreciate checking the pulse of some BB readers.

    No one is going to say by being part of a church/denomination you are "saved". But what assumptions do we make about someone who is ACTIVE and AGREEING with the beliefs of these denominations (not just someone who says they are xyz denomination):
     
  2. stubbornkelly

    stubbornkelly New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,472
    Likes Received:
    0
    I had to give the last answer - "not enough contact to have an idea/opinion" - for every single one, except South Baptist, and that one only because I was raised in Southern Baptist churches (and I chose not to include my experiences with people on this board in determining my answers - I have no way to conclude whether or not those on this board are representative of those in their particular affiliation). And even then I answered 67%, based on my experiences.

    Good poll. Very telling.
     
  3. JIMNSC

    JIMNSC New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2002
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hmmm, several voting but no replies. Okay, I'll post one. I didn't have experience with most of the denominations listed and of course had to vote inexperience. However, I guess I was with the Bible on the Baptists (all of them)....

    Matthew 7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
     
  4. Jim1999

    Jim1999 <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    1
    I didn't answer any of the questions because I cannot presume to know these things.

    I do know that fundamentalists tend to label all people in other churches as being unsaved. From personal experience, I have known many fine Christians in the Anglican Church. On the other hand, I have seen the performance of some Baptists that makes one think.....and sometimes out loud.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    PS. I am a solid Baptist, so as to keep that point clear.
     
  5. Rick Sr.

    Rick Sr. New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2002
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    0
    Dr. Bob: No man can say another man is saved or not except by the fruit his tree bears. That's what I based my answers on, the fruit of the people I have dealings with in each of these denominations. Good poll. Rick Sr.
     
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    21,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    The trend seems to be "everyone who believes like me is most likely born again".

    It may not be appropriate, but it's understandable.
     
  7. Daniel David

    Daniel David New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    5,316
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just out of curiosity, do you believe just like me? ;) [​IMG]
     
  8. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I had to put the Presby's and Methodists in the Very Few catagory. Why? Because the larger bodies (United Presbyterian and United Methodist)are apostate. If I were to just look at members of the smaller groupings of these denominations (e.g. the Orthodox Presbyterians, the Free or Primative Methodists, I would put it the number upto 67 percent as I did for the Bible Churchers and IFBs
     
  9. donnA

    donnA Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2000
    Messages:
    23,354
    Likes Received:
    0
    I couldn't answer, I can not base answers on this poll on maybe a handfull of people from each of these denoms I might have known. Or none from the some of others on the list. I also don't think we can say a lot of people from anyone particular denom are probably not saved based only on their church name.
     
  10. Dr. Bob

    Dr. Bob Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2000
    Messages:
    30,285
    Likes Received:
    507
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Again, all I am seeking is that "gut feeling" from dealing with wonderful folks in other denominations if you feel that the average member is truly regenerate.

    I appreciate the poll results. Many could not honestly make any general categorical statement about particular groups, and I appreciate your hesitation to post.

    Already some interesting results that are surprising to me. Will make some generalizations in another day or two. Thanks.
     
  11. Abiyah

    Abiyah <img src =/abiyah.gif>

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    5,194
    Likes Received:
    0
    The poll told me more about myself than it did
    about any group. I was solidly surprised at
    the answers I chose.
     
  12. Monergist

    Monergist New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    0
    Given that liberalism permeates the many of the major denominations (ex., United Methodists, Presbyterian U.S.A), one has to question whether or not the majority of some groups are Christian. I disagree that the determing factor is whether or not any of these groups believe as I do. The determining factor is--What do they do with the Word of God?

    Having said that, I'll say that among Presbyterians, for instance, there may be a higher percentage of those in OPC or PCA churches that are truly Christian than there are in many Baptist groups.
     
  13. Madelyn Hope

    Madelyn Hope New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2002
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    0
    When I meet a member of any denomination that claims Christ as a Savior, I believe them and treat them as a brother or sister in Christ. It is not my position to judge the veracity of those claims and really only God and that person know the truth. It is my position to join them in fellowship and worship of what we share in common, Christ.

    I have discovered in talking with friends in various denominations that the language surrounding "salvation" differs -- but again we still have in common the most important thing, Christ.

    As to the poll, I chose not enough information/contact for each question.

    Edited to add: I think it is important to remember at times that just because we disagree with another denominations/individuals stance on certain issues that we should automatically assume that their salvation is false.

    [ January 18, 2003, 09:25 AM: Message edited by: Madelyn Hope ]
     
Loading...