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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Michael Wrenn, Sep 23, 2012.

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  1. Michael Wrenn

    Michael Wrenn New Member

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    Yes, he was.

    Menno was a remarkable man and a heroic one.
     
    #21 Michael Wrenn, Sep 24, 2012
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    What is the EOC?
     
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    Eastern Orthodox Church
     
    #23 Michael Wrenn, Sep 24, 2012
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    My problem with the EOC is that it has never recovered from the destruction of Constantinople centuries ago. It they have a unique truth they are not getting the word out.

    A person I know who has a PhD in Bible languages recently went to the top of Mt Athos. He reported your EOC Saints were mostly illiterate in every language.
     
    #24 billwald, Sep 24, 2012
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    It would be more accurate to say that it only holds a part of the Catholic view. That indeed Jesus' unites himself to humanity and God has no need of paying a "ransom" to the devil or is incapable of forgiveness without blood sacrifice. But does have a requirement to his justice. Accordingly on these systems of belief about attonment we say
     
    #25 Thinkingstuff, Sep 24, 2012
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    Who did jesus pay the sin debt to?

    Who is the God over all creation?

    Who is the Being who NEVER reliquished control over creation to at ANY time?

    Hint...

    Same as Father of Jesus!
     
    #26 Yeshua1, Sep 24, 2012
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    God love you brother.....when you get righteous & passionate....well, you do throw it out there :thumbs::laugh:
     
    #27 Earth Wind and Fire, Sep 24, 2012
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    BIG problem with any atonememnt theory that denies a penal substititionary death of jesus is that it means that His death did NOT make actual/real atonement for anys sins, only a potential payment!
     
    #28 Yeshua1, Sep 25, 2012
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    .... THUS, ITS A TRUE LIMITED ATONEMENT, Correct! LOL

    YES...the Romans 8 Argument! In other words Yeshua, you want a SAVIOR who actually saves....not one that dies as a token so that you can go & save yourself.....yes, what assurance is derived there?
     
    #29 Earth Wind and Fire, Sep 25, 2012
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    Yeshua and EWF: That is just not true.

    I have never seen such misunderstanding of the Christus Victor view as I've seen on here.

    You all need to study the CV view to see what it is actually teaching.
     
    #30 Michael Wrenn, Sep 25, 2012
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