Automatic License Plate Recognition

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  1. James_Newman

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    Wonderful!:thumbs:
     
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    He was in Vancouver BC and called it North America. Makes me want to go hmmmm
    Pretty cool tool though.
     
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    And the Lemmings go marching on.

    Wake up people. This is only a cool tool if you welcome Anti-Christ.

    Oh yes. I forget. It IS cool cuz Jesus is coming to rapture us outta here. Ever consider that the rapture theory might be wrong as presently understood?


    The Lemmings go marching off the cliff hoorah! Hoorah!
     
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    I don't particularly see anything wrong with it, unless they use it to spy deliberately on law-abiding taxpayers.
    Let's take uninsured vehicles for example.
    What kind of person will deliberately operate an uninsured vehicle ? The same streak of person as one who will deliberately enter a one-way street just to get where he wants to go faster. These persons both have a criminal side to them.
    They break the law, and they have no regard for the safety, lives, and properties of others.
    Never mind themselves.
    I think the camera will be a good tool for police to do what they're supposed to do.
    Protect the general public and get the bad guys off the streets.
    I think this is a radical approach to crime prevention, and much better than reactionary.
    Secondly, you have a car that's been reported as stolen, being driven around by most probably the same bunch of crooks who robbed someone, or at the very least their friends, and they can deliberately park alongside a police officer's cruiser with the police officer not the least wiser.
    They go around a corner, rob some store, hurt somebody, walk calmly to their car, wave goodbye to the officer/s, and drive away like nothing happened.
    The public raises an outcry, the cops are called stupid, the victims cry in front of the camera because the cops are not doing their jobs, what the heck we payin' our taxes for and all that jazz ?
    Seems to me jobs like being a soldier and being a cop are fast evolving into a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of job.
    Best go back to plantin' potatoes, boys.
     
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    I do not see why anyone would have a problem with it.this is the very nature of license plates since their conception.
     
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    Gee, no, my Bible is the same as when I learned of it.

    Who are the Lemmings who's death you are celebrating?
     
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    I disagree vehemently. These people can be the working poor who can't afford insurance, but must drive to work to earn the rent and food. They are usually very careful in obeying traffic laws in order to survive. Many have families relying on them. As far as "these people" having a criminal side to them, doesn't everyone? For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.
     
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    And I disagree vehemently. Either you obey the law or you don't. If you're too poor as you say, to afford insurance, then, by all means, try to get to work without driving an uninsured car, because driving it is criminal. It is against the law, besides exposing others, as well as yourself, to harm.
    Poverty is not an excuse to breaking the law.
    It may be a reason to do so, but it can not be the excuse.
    As for Scriptures, you and I know it, but the law doesn't care about Scriptures, and the Scriptures themselves say that we are to submit ourselves to the law of the land we live in.
    You're saying break the Scriptures while quoting it.
     
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    It is as common as the sun coming up. I live on a block in a middle class neighborhood and I know of one family without insurance, and there is a neighborhood about a quarter mile away where I bet less than half have car insurance. They cannot afford it. period. When someone gets caught, their car is unconstitutionally confiscated, and within weeks they are gone.

    Excuse, or willful disobedience doesn't matter, it is a fact of life. They premiums on my insurance policy includes the addressing of these people and I never object to its inclusion, and it is quite small. I believe in grace, not law, as it applies here.
     
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    changed my mind.
     
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    Excellent! Should cut crime. Hope they also scan for uninsured cars.

    Driving thru Ill, Mich, Penn, and Ohio I have noticed that people drive much more politely on the toll roads. I suspect that is because they must go through a toll plaza to exit. Having licenses scanned and maybe tickets issued for speders should cut the accident rate muchly.
     
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    The constitutional issues I have with stuff like this, red lights at cameras, etc.:

    1. We believe in the USA, "Innocent until proven guilty." This causes problems. Unless you are photographed as the driver during the offense the case is unprovable.
    2. Montgomery AL and other cities have looked into cameras at red lights. However, these cameras, and subsequent ticketing, would be out-sourced to a private company. I think it's a dangerous precedent to allow a private company to enforce, with penatlies, our traffic laws.

    Too many constitutional rights are messed with for my taste.

    Now, having said that, maybe someone much smarter than I can come up with a plan to reduce some of the silliness on the road that doesn't trample rights.
     
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    Sounds like the death penalty should fit your bill.

    2 witness for a traffic violation and its off to the gallows.

    That would reduce silliness pretty quickly.


     
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    Then they shouldn't drive. Doesn't that make sense?

    What do you mean by "unconstitutionally confiscated"?

    I believe in law. I resent paying insurance for those who don't pay it themselves. The law is that you have to pay it. So pay it, or don't drive.
     
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    I question the efficiency of the system that is needed to supply the info to the police.

    How will they know who has insurance and who doesn't?

    For instance...
    Case 1. Suppose a driver here in WV has insurance through Nationwide.
    He is canceled because of non-payment, but didn't realize it for a week, or the payment was just late getting to the insurance company, or even being posted by the insurance company, but after that week, renews his insurance. (This happened to my mom... the payment got to the company in time, but wasn't posted to the computer in time, so she was cancelled!)
    Does the insurance company tell the state that he has been canceled, and then a week later tell them he has been renewed?...
    How long will it take to get the information into the state systems.?.. We all know how effecient DMV is..
    Theoretically, the driver could be singled out for this because of all the red tape it takes to get the info right....

    Case 2 Same guy, but different scenario...
    He is cancelled for non-payment. Nationwide reports to the state that he is cancelled... But the same day, he finds out Geico is cheaper, so begins a policy with them... What would be reported to DMV?

    If only the cancellation is reported, the driver is subject to an inappropriate traffic stop.

    As far as I know, insurance companies are not required to report new policies, but (I believe) they have to report cancellations...
    It is a law on the books somewhere here in WV, that the sheriff's department, can come take your plates if you are cancelled... But they never do... Want to know why? Most of the time, a payment was late, or the driver switched companies, so by the time the sheriff shows up at the front door the driver has already renewed his insurance... a wasted effort on the Sheriff.

    Now can you imagine, all the bad information that can get into the database this system is going to rely on?
    and all the useless stops the police will be making... Talk about a police state... stopped just because you switched companies.... The insurance companies would love that!
     
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    Now that I shared my concerns...
    Here is what would be good about it...

    Stolen vehicles
    Suspended Tags...
    Crime suspects with known tag numbers
    Amber alerts
    Etc...

    But it still wouldn't help police find cars that have tags registered to another vehicle.

    For instance, if i owned 2 cars a pontiac, and ford....
    If my tags went dead for my ford, I could just put the tags off the pontiac on the ford... illegally....

    This system would miss this unless there was a way to compare make and model with tag numbers.
     
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    That would work, looks like.
     
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    I used to have 8 employee's only 4 of which, I think had insurance. Each one's concern was not for the insurance, but for the food and lodging they could afford. One of the biggest costs, was the $100 to $150 car they would have to purchase every 5 or 6 months to get to work, because their cars were confiscated.
     
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