Separate names with a comma.
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Oct 30, 2009.
From an article in the Baptist Bulletin (GARBC)
No problem.. BAPTISTIC!
There's no need to change the spelling.
He presents a very weak argument for congregational church government IMO.
The acrostic meets the need.
Two offices: elder and deacon.
Priesthood of the believer: equal access
Of course I come from an elder-lead congregation. ;-)
Then what does the "I" stand for?
If its "Independent" what about the ABC?
Interesting and somewhat informative, but typical baptistic ramblings.
Oh.. that's simple.. the "I" stands for what we say after a motion is made...
And the Ayes Have it!
People are hung up on acrostics a lot.
Are there two offices? Elder and deacon?
My view of a deacon is a lot different than most. I don't believe in them.
I found it interesting when studying the Greek that the word "office" is not in the Greek, and thus no "office" of a deacon. It was an Anglican word inserted because of their liturgical background and political expediency of the time. There is no office of a deacon. You won't find it in the Greek.
If you want a better translation check Darby's.
(since we are friends now, can I just call you D? :laugh:
Those of us in the military are hung up on acrostics because the Army loves them.
Actually, I have often wondered about that myself, is the deacon actually an office, as their job is simply to take care of the physical needs of especially the widows.
Thanks for the input
ps, most pastors have a desk in their office, but how many deacons have a desk, let alone an office :smilewinkgrin:
Forcing the key distinctives of historic Baptists into an artificial famework is not smart.
Bible is sole authority for faith and practice
Regenerated church membership
Autonomy of the local church
Priesthood of the believers
Immersion/Lord's Supper as Ordinances
Separation of Church and State
Separation Ethically (from the world) and Ecclesiatically (from compromise)
BRAPSISS just isn't as "catchy", but much more accurate.
We are probably closer in that belief than my post lead you to believe.
Anyway I think the OP concerned congregational lead vs. elder lead.
Our congregation just installed a fourth elder today :saint:
The congregation voted him in. :smilewinkgrin:
I prefer to call it "seperation of the State from the church"
I agree that some acronyms have value.
It is my opinion that someone took the name "BAPTIST" and then tried to force some Baptist distinctives into it. Now they can say they have truly Baptist distinctives because they fit into a "Baptist" acronym.
The word "Baptist" has only seven letters. I believe there are eight Baptist Distinctives. In the word "Baptist" there is at least one letter that stands for a distinctive that isn't a Baptist distinctive (the office of a deacon).
Now when I was teaching a Sunday School class on "What is a Baptist" I went through the Baptist Distinctives as I believe what they are. When I didn't teach that "The pastor and deacon are the only two offices of the local church," I got roasted by the assistant pastor of that church. It was well "That is not what I learned in Bible College," attitude, and therefore I am right and you are wrong.
It's wrong. Baptist churches are usually congregational in governance, but it's not a prerequisite for being a Baptist, nor is it a core scriptural doctrine. It's a matter of local autonomy.
Shouldn't add to the distinctives just to suit themselves.