Babies destroyed for science

We wouldn't be doing that. The destruction had already been finished. This is like being an organ donar. If we're dying we can still help someone else live.

 

Whether before or after it is still participation.

 

So you don't support organ donation?

 

If murder of people who can donate organs became legal I would oppose it in that case.

 

While I am also sickened by the practice, I wonder more if of the OP was looking for a fight. You can state your case without condemning everyone else. I stand in judgement of no man. I'll let God take care of all of that. I was reading in Romans the other day about judging. It said to not judge, because we will all stand before Christ's judgement. I'd rather stand up for what I believe in, but leave the judgemental attitude out of it.

To each their own, though.

 

Where in Romans does it say to not judge??

 

Let's use that logic in a different situation...

If China uses child slave labor to make cheap goods why not buy them since they have already been made - instead of letting them just pile up in a warehouse where they won't do anyone any good?

That doesn't seem right does it?

You see if you operate from a core set of values and principles you can apply them to any situation to determine right from wrong. It is a much more reliable system to operate on than just going by your emotions or personal wishes.

 

Romans 14, specifically verse 10.

 

You can justify it. That's fine. I see it as that you were not just bringing up a political issue. You chose instead to use the issue to slam others. It is my opinion, but because it is off topic, I will drop out of the discussion.

To be honest, Brother Tim, I agree with you on a great many things, but I don't like this attitude.

With that, I wish you all the best.

 

Creating a market for murdered fetuses is not "less evil" than throwing away murdered fetuses. Both are abominations. If anything...creating the market for dead babies is more problematic...because it mollifies the guilt of those participating in it..."oh, it's sad...but at least the dead children went to a good cause." Don't you see how revolting that is? Don't you get that there is no justification for such? When we even hint at "the end justifies the means" kind of reasoning, we're in the biggest trouble imaginable.

By the way...when president Obama justifies this abomination by saying, "I speak for the majority of all Americans," it simply magnifies the lack of, er, a pair of "reinforcements" in his moral fiber. If the majority is "for it," (which I doubt is true), then we must "do it." Who cares if it's wrong? Majority rules...

(Which, BTW, is the reason I bristle whenever anyone refers to the USA as a "democracy.")

 

Oh, good grief.

Please tell me you comprehend the difference between a clear-thinking adult agreeing to become an organ donor, and a murdered child being put into the "market" for his/her parts...

Please tell me you see that fundamental difference.

 

If we are murdering babies to harvest body parts how long will it be before healthy adults are murdered for their body parts? I have heard rumors that this is happening in other countries but can't say for sure.

 

Yes, it has been happening in China for years - political prisoners (meaning Christians) are executed for their body parts to be sold on the black market.

Also, I read when the Taliban ruled in Afghanistan, they would kidnap children and murder them for their body parts. Probably if someone Googled, they could come up with more info and where it is happening in other countries.

Maybe JC and those of that mindset would like to volunteer to "help a good cause?"

 

So am I, and I agree.

 

On this you are in error. If all fertilized eggs are not implanted, they can be saved for implanting later. If a couple chooses not to use all the fertilized eggs which were harvested, they can opt to give them to another couple who is having trouble conceiving. Destruction isn't necessary in every case. To justify embryonic stem cell research on this false argument is like looking for ways to make killing people......in this case, babies..... or those which could become babies..... alright. It is so all -wrong that nothing can ever make it all-right!:tear:

 

So you believe that couples who use In Vietro fertilization are murders. Right?

 

JC, please read post #76 and then stop this silly game.

You are trying to justify embryonic stem cell research which does 'murder' the innocent

and you are indiscriminantly calling other's 'murderers'.










Invitro fertilization does not mean that fertilized cells must be 'wasted' or 'destroyed'. They can be adopted out to other infertile couples. Any which are implanted but are miscarried can be attributed to the will of God. A miscarrage is not the same as abortion...... as any mother who's been pregnant and lost a child will tell you..... As happened to my neice and her husband just last week....just a few weeks into their first pregnancy:tear: !

 

So you think the Christian decision should be to trash these embryos rather than make use of them for research to find cures for various diseases? I don't understand that.