back to the old paths?

Discussion in 'Forum for Polls' started by gekko, Dec 21, 2007.

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how many like/dislike this "old paths" literature?

  1. I like it all!

    25.0%
  2. I don't like it at all!

    16.7%
  3. I like most of it - some of it I don't

    33.3%
  4. I don't like most of it - some I do though

    25.0%
  1. gekko

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    got this in an email - how many agree/disagree?


    I liked the old paths, when
    Moms were at home.
    Dads were at work.
    Brothers went into the army.
    And sisters got married BEFORE having children!

    Crime did not pay;
    Hard work did;
    And people knew the difference.

    Moms could cook;
    Dads would work;
    Children would behave. thats the first part

    Women wore the jewelry;
    And Men wore the pants.
    Women looked like ladies;
    Men looked like gentlemen;
    And children looked decent.

    Hymns sounded Godly;
    Sermons sounded helpful;
    Rejoicing sounded normal;
    And crying sounded sincere.

    The flag was honored;
    America was beautiful;
    And God was welcome!

    We read the Bible in public;
    Prayed in school;
    And preached from house to house
    To be called an American was worth dying for;
    To be called a Christian was worth living for;
    To be called a traitor was a shame!

    Church was where you found Christians
    on the Lord's day, rather than in the garden,
    on the creek bank, on the golf course,
    Or being entertained somewhere else.

    People loved the truth,
    And hated a lie;
    They came to church to get IN,
    Not to get OUT! Cursing was wicked;
    Drugs were for illness;
    And divorce was unthinkable.

    Preachers preached because they had a message;
    And Christians rejoiced because they had the VICTORY!
    Preachers preached from the Bible;
    Singers sang from the heart;
    And sinners turned to the Lord to be SAVED!

    A new birth meant a new life;
    Salvation meant a changed life;
    Following Christ led to eternal life.

    Being a preacher meant you proclaimed the word of God;
    Being a deacon meant you would serve the Lord;
    Being a Christian meant you would live for Jesus;
    And being a sinner meant someone was praying for you!

    Laws were based on the Bible;
    Homes read the Bible;
    And churches taught the Bible.

    God was worshiped;
    Christ was exalted;
    And the Holy Spirit was respected..

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    God bless.
     
  2. FriendofSpurgeon

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    Sounds nice -- but it definitely remembers only the good part of the old times -- none of the not so good. A lot of the good old days were only good if you were white and male --- and preferably with money.
     
  3. gekko

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    yeah.

    ok - anything that anybody agree's or disagree's with?
     
  4. Baptist Believer

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    They still are at home or come home when then are able.
    Dads should also be able to come home.
    They still do.
    Usually they do. Of course many religious folks love to shame unmarried folks who get pregnant, so it's often more tolerable to abort their children rather than face the often unmerciful people who claim to be followers of Jesus.

    Still doesn't.
    Still does.
    They still do.

    They can. And so can Dads.
    They still do.
    Children misbehaved in ancient times and will continue to misbehave. That's called sin. Teaching them not to misbehave (in their actions) is called discipline. Training them to become people who want to do the right thing is called character formation.

    Still do. Men have worn jewelry and adornment for centuries, especially watches, swords and medals.
    They still do. Women can also wear pants modestly.
    They still do.
    They often do, although I'm not sure what you mean by gentlemen. Twirling mustaches and top hats?
    Children have always looked decent.

    They still do.
    They still do.
    Still does.
    Uhh... I don't often hear unsincere crying.

    Still is.
    Still is.
    Still is.

    Still do.
    Still do. (Schoolchildren pray all the time without a government employee mandating or prompting it.)
    Still do.
    Still is.
    Still is.
    Still is. To actually be a traitor is worse.

    Still is. Although the church is not a building, it is where God's people are gathered for worship, fellowship and edification.

    I doubt this has ever been true to any great degree. The Bible makes that fairly clear.
    Still do.

    Still is.
    Still are.
    For many people it still is. Unfortunately, there are many people who don't want a divorce who end up that way because of the sinful choices of their spouse. Of course religious folks love to condemn the innocent with the guilty, so you can be comfortable knowing that every Christian who goes through divorce has to endure enormous stigma and condemnation from folks who claim to be disciples of Jesus.

    Still do.
    Still do.
    Still do.
    Still do.
    Still do.

    Still does.
    Still does.
    Still does. But more than that, eternal life begins when you follow Christ.

    Still does.
    Still does. But deacons serve God by serving others. They are literally servants of the church.
    Still does.
    Usually, that's true.

    In almost all historical circumstances, this is not true, although the Bible has always been influential. English Common Law (often mediated through Blackstone's Commentaries) was enormously influential.
    People in homes still read the Bible.
    Still do. Although they usually truncate the message of scripture to a very limited (and distorted) construction of a "Plan of Salvation" extracted by reading the Apostle Paul's writings outside the context of Jesus' teaching. Most churches reduce the gospel down to "how to get to heaven" instead of actually paying attention to what Jesus taught and demonstrated about the Kingdom of God and how to live a transformed life. And of course, that has led directly to the cultural situation that this sentimental prose regrets. Of course this prose is not designed to actually help us in any way, it only deals with externals and points us away from any real solution.

    He still is.
    He still is.
    The Spirit still is.
     
  5. gekko

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    you live in an omish community or somethin?

    or you just blind to everything around you?

    america's worth dying for? not right now it isn't. no country's worth dying for.
    being called a christian is worth dying for though.

    i'm not saying that what the soldiers are doing is useless or anything.
    i'm saying that it's worded incorrectly in the email forward is all..

    sorry if i've offended anyone.
     
  6. rbell

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    "omish"

    They must meditate a lot.


    :thumbs: :laugh:

    (not to be confused with Amish.)

    The omish-Amish are new-age meditators that hate technology. :D
     
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    I think the list you gave us is rather full of sweeping generalisations. For instance, has there ever been a time when all brothers went into the army, when all mothers were able to cook, when all children behaved properly, when all hymns were godly, when God was welcomed by everybody? Was there ever a time when all churches without exception taught according to the bible?

    I am not qualified (not being an American) to comment on the items in your list that refer specifically to your country.
     
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    You're forgiven. :mad:
     
  9. Baptist Believer

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    Nope. Like in the real world.

    Not at all. I didn't say that everyone is doing those things, but there are many people still following the "old paths."

    Wow! You've let the negativity of the election season (where the Democrats try to tell us how miserable we allegedly are) really go to your head.

    This is a fantastic country. Yes, we have a lot of problems, but those problems are common to all people. You won't be able to escape from them by going to another country. And this grand experiment in freedom and tolerance is worth dying for.

    Sure. It's also worth living for.

    Well you pretty much did.
     
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    I love how the "old Paths" seems to refer to the Beaver Cleaver era... only 50 yrs ago!!!!

    Hmmmm...

    Growing up, 50 yrs seemed "old" to me...
    But as I approach 40, 50 is not that old anymore...

    Let's go back a few more yrs...
    Like around 1776...

    Men wore wigs...
    Sorry, you can keep that old path...

    Or go back to the real old paths...
    Men wore robes....
    Again, sorry, not gonna happen....

    The prose is filled with generalizations...
    The problem with "old paths" is they are all relative to what you call "old"

    To my son's, "old paths" mean disco, and 8 tracks...
    Don't really wanna go there either....

    I think I will stay in the time God put me...
    He has something for me to do....

    BTW, I am glad my wife is not a sappy sweet woman like June Cleaver....
    Men were such wimps back then, letting the women cater to them like they did.
     
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    I like the idea behind it, Gekko. From my reading of history, and more particular, Christian history, we are certainly in a dark age. Honestly, I could care less what the godless culture is doing, divorces, femminization, homosexuality, none of that matters. What I'm really burdened about(truly burdened) is the Christian community.
     
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    A lot of the terrible things that are going on today were also going on back then. It just wasn't as obvious. And I am grateful some things HAVE changed.

    love,

    Sopranette
     
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    The world has definitely grown darker over the years, and it will contiue to do so. I remeber how things were as a kid, and see how they are now.

    I can remember three girls who were pregnant in my high school my senior year (we had 2500 students). My daughter graduated last year and they needed a fleet of OB/GYNs standing by... some had a couple of kids cheering Mommy across the stage. And this is now accepted...? Even in the church...?

    People spit on our boys yet today when they come home from overseas, whether they have seen combat action or not. America is no longer viewed as something worthy of respect by todays citizens, but rather an object of ridicule. The AMerican flag is even supplanted by other flags in some areas of our nation...

    God is not allowed in our schools, but guns are there. Our kids can't pray before a game, but they can conceive after it. You can't teach "Love waits", but you can hand out condoms with a wink.

    Not everthing was peaches and cream back then, either. Medicine has advanced tremendously. Technology now was thought of as science fiction then. We can travel faster, farther, and safer than ever before.
     
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    All Scripture Will Be From The NLTse

    Ecclesiastes 7:10 : Don't long for 'the good old days." This is not wise .

    Job 29:2-5 : I long for the years gone by when God took care of me , when he lit up the way before me and I walked safely through the darkness . When I was in my prime , God's friendship was felt in my home . The Almighty was still with me , and my children were around me .

    Job kept talking in that fashion for the rest of the chapter . At the start of the next chapter he laments his present situation with "But now ..."

    We shouldn't grumble about how things seem so bad now in contrast to the way things seemed to be so much better "back in the day." That kind of thinking seems to be doubting God's providence . It plants doubts that the Lord really cares about us . And that is a troublesome notion to be circulating in one's head .

    There will always be bad people and terrible suffering and sin of all sorts about us . I know the KJV speaks of things "waxing" worse and worse . But we need to gain some perspective on the matter .

    Perhaps we ( me too !) are too caught up in nostalgia a bit much . Remember that in the future people will talk of these present times as being "the good old days ." Can you imagine ?!

    Psalm 118:24 says : This is the day that the Lord has made . We will rejoice and be glad in it .

    If we show our displeasure and discontent in this regard -- that means that you finding dissatisfaction with the Lord who made "this day."

    Don't be like the Israelites of old who grumbled that things were so much better back in Egypt in former times .

    Now doctrinally I insist on the old paths . Jeremiah 6:16 says : This is what the Lord says : "Stop at the crossroads and look around . Ask for the old , godly way , and walk in it . Travel its path , and you will find rest for your souls . But you reply , 'No ! that's not the road we want !"
     
  15. Baptist Believer

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    Where is this happening. Seriously. I have heard nothing of the sort and this would be the thing that the news media would be all over....

    I strongly disagree. Guns are not allowed in our schools, but God is there.

    Now guns sometimes get into the schools, but they're not allowed. And God is not forbidden from our schools (as if such a thing were possible).

    Who is stopping them from praying? (HINT: No one can stop someone from praying.) The only thing they are prevented from doing is using the platform of the football game established by the government and the amplification equipment owned by the government to lead others in prayer.

    They can conceived before and during it too.

    The Josh McDowell program that is spectacularly ineffective?

    I'd rather the church teach young people a Christian view of sexuality and spiritual formation instead of simply teaching sin avoidance. If a teen becomes the kind of person who has a Christian view of sexuality, they won't want to debase themselves with fornication.

    Do they really wink?
     
  16. gekko

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    westboro baptists... lol
     
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    Just so much mawkishness, little to do with Gospel proclamation.
     
  18. Tom Bryant

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    Thanks, tentmaker... good word
     

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