Bacon eaters! Do you see?

Let's notice the connection between vs 4 and vs 5. The Word of God in Lev 11 points out the fact that diseased animals and rats (among other things ) are not good for food.

Turns out -- the Word of God is reliable in that regard.

in Christ,

Bob

 

>>"You went into the house of uncircumcised men and ate with them."


>indicating unclean food.


Gentiles can purchase kosher food.


Anyone who doesn't understand the difference between "rotten" and "ritually unclean" needs to do some homework.

Over ripe kosher veggies are not unclean else there could not be kosher kim chee. Then there is lutefisk . . . .

 

Diseased beef is not good for you either, yet that is not mentioned in Leviticus 11. Our governments are smart enough not to allow diseased meat into the food chain by destroying all cattle which had "mad cow" disease. Bob you are not even using your brain here.

Pork is an entirely safe meat here. It is not diseased. The Lord declared it to be so. It is not inherently diseased. The Lord never said that. He declared that the Israelites would have a special diet to make them different from all the nations of the world. It was not specific to their health, although there may have been some health reasons there. Even with pork, any pork cooked well is safe for human consumption. That is a scientific fact. If you don't believe that, you are living in the dark ages.

 

Amen Brother DHK. :thumbsup:

 

Trichinosis is primarily contracted from undercooked or improperly cooked meat, especially pork. We now know that undercooking meat is dangerous. Also, we have refrigeration which wasn't available when the prohibition of this food was given. I think this is definately an example of needing to interpret scripture within the historical context that it was written.

"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this. Jesus declared all foods "clean.") Mark 7:18-20 NIV

 

To the contrary - Lev 11 forbids the eating of any diseased animal - clean or unclean. It is very specific.

The text does not say "do not eat a diseased rat if you find one" rather it says not to eat any diseased animal it does not matter if it is rat, cat, dog or sheep. The same goes for any animal that dies of itself.

Thus trying to toss God's Word out the window just because you might favor a rat sandwich etc - just does not work in this case.

What a great thing! So I guess they too would not want us to ignore what we find in Lev 11 in that regard.

It specifically forbids the eating of diseased animals as well as forbidding the eating of rats cats dogs bats - etc.

Lev 11 places no approval on the eating of diseased animals thus it also forbids the eating of diseased sheep, cows, bulls, goats etc.

You are free to suppose that forbidding such things has nothing to do with health if that is where your view of God's Word "needs" you to go.

(As I recall - recently someone here suggested that the OT saints were not supposed to eat diseased animals as some kind of "ceremony")

in Christ,

Bob

 

Bob, give me one good reason why I should accept your red herring that pork should be automatically considered diseased. It was never considered diseased. You are making false statements on the board.

 

Bob, are you consistent with the law?
So far you have been referring only to the dietary law.
What about the laws concerning clothing?
If you are to apply dietary laws to yourself you must also apply the law in other areas of personal care.

Deuteronomy 22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together.

The principle here is that one could not wear anything made of more than one fabric. You either had to dress all in linen or all in wool, or all in cotton, etc. Today, you would not be allowed polyester blends (most shirts), blended wools (with rayon quite often), denim, cotton and polyester, acryllic and polyester, etc. etc. Just take a look at some of the tags in your clothing. Do you wear all of one type of clothing? Is it all wool, all cotton, all of one kind of material? I doubt it.
Therefore you are hypocritical in keeping the law. If you can't keep the law in this area--the area of clothing, it is obvious you can't keep dietary laws either. Both must be observed or you are hypocritical.

If one should keep the whole law and yet offends in one point he is guilty of all.
You are guilty of all.

 

Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

Was Noah commanded to bring diseased animals upon the ark??

 

From Mark Chapter 7

15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. m

 

Well, 'purging all meats' sounds a lot different than the NIV 'declaring all foods clean'. Anyone know which is closer to the greek?

 

Both translations are correct.
I believe the word purgatory is related to purge: purg-a-tory--a place where one is (supposedly) purified (purged) from their sins.

 

From Robertson's Word Pictures:

Hope that helps, Lori.

 

I "stand amazed" that someone else would mention the merits of science. Kudos, and so proud of you DHK. Amen. BTW, science is not a "god" but rather a gift of the rationality granted to mankind by God himself.

 

Hey Bob,

How about oysters, crab legs, flounder, trigger fish etc.?

 

I think Lev 11 says something about "fins and scales" when it comes to fish - so no eels, no squid etc.

Read that part of God's Word and let me know if I am in error.

in Christ,

Bob

 

Mark 7 is a debate about eating "WHEAT" with unbaptized hands. Christ complains in Mark 7 that they are setting aside the commandments of God to teach the traditions of men.

He then points out - as in the case above - that sin does not enter the body through the eating of things like wheat with unbaptized hands.

Thus long after the Matt 7 event - in Acts 10 Peter continues to affirm 3 times before God Himself - that he has remained faithful to the Word of God specific to Lev 11.

in Christ,

Bob