Look, I'm not claiming to be a computer expert. I personally know three dozen people I can name off the top of my head that know WAY more than I do. A couple of them frequent this message board. That said, I keep running across church-going folks who keep getting what I personally consider bad computer advice from people trying to sell them computers and/or computer services; basically taking advantage of the less technologically-competent among us. For example, a couple I know has a ministry; they attended a seminar, where they were given a personal one-on-one with one of the seminar presenters, and he had them convinced they needed to start shelling out $750/month for a website, search engine optimization, advertising services, etc. I was able to dial them back, sit down and show them that their Facebook page was already showing up on the first page of Google search results, and determine that they were already using their Facebook page address on their business card and mailings. I asked them why they wanted to start putting themselves in debt for something that had a negligible--and most likley, negative--return on investment. Once they thought more about it, and had more information, they started telling more people about their Facebook page, and last I heard, things were picking up.... A pastor friend was adamant that his church needed a website. I kept asking him why. He just had it in his head that it would be more professional to have a website. I asked him who was going to maintain it; if he understood the difference between domain name and hosting, and how much a domain name costs versus hosting costs; etc. I offered to educate him; but he started to understand the complexity of what he was asking for. Then I showed him that the Facebook page that one of his parishioners had started was actually the #1 result on Google; AND, it already had the capability of a calendar, allowing his parishioners to share things with each other, etc., etc. I'm not advocating Facebook. I'm hopefully advocating common sense, inexpensive solutions, and using computers as tools rather than seeing technology as "gee whiz gadgets" that we can point at and say "see what we have" (for instance, I'm thankful that no one has asked me about creating a mobile app for their church or ministry yet; but I'm also surprised it hasn't happened). Not really sure why I'm starting this thread. Maybe just venting. Does anyone else see what I'm seeing?