http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/0...h-ordains-first-gay-minister/?test=latestnews I know some on here argue for the goodness of man in his lost state, when God states none are good. Some, to argue their point, which is unscriptural to say the least, argue that since a man may not lie, or tells the truth, or may pray or whatever they want to say ini argument for man against revealed truth, use that to determine said person is then a good person, a person who does good and therefore is good. It has even been argued that since man does this then God comes down and favors them for this and saves them. Cornelius was falsely used as a proof-text example, being completely misunderstood by those using this argument. This is works merited salvation btw. Anyhow: Let's play that unbiblical game. Is this fellow h*m*s*xua*l good too? He may not lie, he may even tell the truth, he may even pray, you know, the things you use to prove that man is good against God's revealed truth that man is not good. And according to the verdict of some, then this fellow is really good, not bad.