Banana Republic Passes Legislation for Healthcare Plan!

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  1. righteousdude2

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    Healthcare Legeslation a NAIL in America's Coffin???

    Will the financial cost to eventually operate the Obama-care health plan transform this once free standing, industrialized nation into a third-world banana republic???

    Time will tell if my prediction is right, or, wrong. And, like many of you, I pray I'm wrong!:flower:

    However, if we continue to tumble and spin out of control in this downward, financial free-fall, America will not only be broke [financially], but, it will be broken and possibly broken beyond repair.

    So, what caused America to stub its big toe and begin a one-way slide to oblivion, tumbling and stumbling head-over-heals, completely out-of-control and down the proverbially slippery (political) slope was her reckless spending on useless bailout programs and the drive to secure a fairytale entitlement health insurance plan for a nation of people unable to afford and purchase it.

    So, as America continues its downward spiral, its leaders seem to be thoroughly unable to see the forest beyond the trees, which means they can not stop this out-of-control fall from greatness. America seems to be doomed to be just another failed attempt at democracy in the annals of future historians.

    President Obama is EGO DRIVEN, and will eventually be judged for passing over the only thing that could have saved America: JOBS!

    So, while mired in a depression like recession, the POTUS took it upon himself to stubbornly and singlehandedly spearhead a health care plan that will mean nothing to the sick and physical needy in America, because without jobs, Americans can't afford to purchase the universal insurance plan. And without cash carrying consumers, gainfully employed, the government will be unable to recoup the money needed to keep their massive ship afloat; and like the Titanic, this sweeping health care plan will sink, taking those aboard, down to the bottom of their political abyss.

    Truly the cart [health care] was put before the horse [jobs], which is why the cargo never arrived at its intended destination. That destination was simply gainful employment, leading American's back to a stable, productive economy, which in turn would enable the people the ability to pay their own way in life, and purchase a health care plan that meets their needs.:tear:

    Shalom,

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    Amen to all of that, and Merry Christmas to you. You are correct about jobs. Jobs are what drives the economy. We have been losing hands on, industrial jobs for decades to service jobs. NAFTA did not help, and neither has every administration since NAFTA.

    It seems to me that what all the economic experts we have in this country, something could have been done within the private sector to curb abusive insurance companies, lawyers, and medical establisments, plus get more people health care, without getting the government involved in the managment of it. This is going to be a disaster. Having been with the government for 36 years, I can tell you this is a train wreck waiting to happen. They cannot get a letter across town in three days.

    A few laws passed in strategic areas would have made a big difference, for example, tort reform, and insurance reform. For what we are spending on this program, we could purchase every uninsured person in America a top notch policy in the private sector.

    As is usual with politicians, it is not about what is best for us, it is about control and power.
     
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    Merry Christmas to you too, my brother. I guess we can only hope that this impending "train wreck" brings us closer to the Second-Coming of Jesus...

    Pastor Paul
     
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    A banana republic? This one piece of legislation, as bad as it is?

    No.

    But it's a nail.
     
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    I Liked It, Thanks~

    I liked the NAIL comment, and changed the title of this post to reflect your comment. I hope you don't mind?:wavey:
     
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    Correct. :thumbs:
     
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    No.

    As far as the bailouts go, I'm not a fan of how it was handled. Probably some action needed to be taken, but it has been a mess. I was opposed to the stimulus plan; I think the Republicans had it right when some proposed a tax holiday.

    Well, the President had very little to do with the formation of the actual bill. You should blame Congress. With that said, you are right that the Senate bill does little to contain costs. I hope I'm wrong, but it probably will increase costs because it does not include a public option. Insurance companies will be able to jack up rates as much as possible without any public competition. The House version, at least, would reduce the budget deficit over the next ten years. I'm a die-hard supporter of universal health care reform, but without a public option or Medicare buy-in it isn't going to work. This bill will cost the Democrats seats in 2010, and rightfully so.

    The problem with the Senate bill is it's not liberal enough, it gives the Republicans ammunition to use against the Democrats, and it alienates the Democratic base.

    That's somewhat true. The stimulus bill will help a little on the jobs front, but you miss the point on universal health care, which should have been cost containment and a public option.
     
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    And you give "the one" a pass on this because?

    Isn't he the head of the Democrats?

    Isn't he supposed to be a leader?

    Actually, Obama doesn't care what is in the bill just so long as he can say he signed it and pat himself on the back of for (insert some self congratulatory rhetoric here).
     
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    :laugh:

    I wonder why we have a president, Mr. Wannabe Lawyer?

    Here's a flash for you, so be sure and pay attention...

    In the grown up world, if a president , or any chief executive, or any individual signs it...whatever it is...they own it.
     
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    gays, gay marriage, political correctness ?;):rolleyes:
     
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    IMO it started with in the late 60's and early 70's with legalized abortion and artificial birth control.

    That tricked people into believing that they could be free from the consequences for poor choices and inhibited a maturation of into true adulthood.

    It fostered an emphasis of "what's in it for me?" instead of "what are my responsibilities towards others?".

    And here we are now.
     
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    You're Correct, BUT....

    That's another posting in itself, isn't it. Maybe you can take it from that point...
     
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    JFK Had it RIGHT....

    When he challenged America and American's to "Ask not what your country can do for you, BUT, what you can do for your country..." was the last time a POTUS actually challenged this nation to drop the sense of ENTITLEMENT from their personal agenda when it came to government.

    Than, sad to say, he was killed, and LBJ introduced social welfare, and the slow drive to entitlement within the hearts of the people had its birth...

    Thanks for your post and feedback, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    Pastor Paul:type:
     
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    It is hard to put a date on it, but this is when the slide started. Fifty years ago, yes, abortion and gay relationships existed, but those who did such things kept them hid. They were not acceptable to society in general, and as a rule not talked about. There are many other examples.

    The slide started when we as a society started accepting them. We went from that point to making it the official law of the land, and it is now more than a slide, it is a free fall.

    It is bad enough to sin before a Holy God, and be ashamed of it. It is quite another to rub the Lord's face in it.
     
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    You Hit the Nail Right Smack on Its HEAD!

    AMEN, and Amen!!!
     
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    >Will the financial cost to eventually operate the Obama-care health plan transform this once free standing, industrialized nation into a third-world banana republic???

    It was free trade that did this when we stopped treating the banana republics like banana republics and eliminated import duties while the banana republics didn't eliminate their import duties.
     
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    America Should Be Recieving Grants Very Soon

    After years and years of giving other nations free money, to improve the living status of their leaders, it is high time America start getting checks from the nations we supported for years.:laugh:
     

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