Luther (Lutherans)on baptism: In Baptism every Christian has enough to study and to practice all his life. He always has enough to do to believe firmly what Baptism promises and brings— victory over death and the devil, forgiveness of sin, God’s grace, the entire Christ, and the Holy Spirit with his gifts. In short the blessings of Baptism are so boundless that if timid nature considers them, it may well doubt whether they could all be true.1 (Emp. JSM17) 1. LC, Baptism, 41–43 John Knox (Presbyterians) on baptism: Scots Confession of John Knox teaches regarding baptism. It states, ...so we utterly condemn the vanity of those who affirm the sacraments to be nothing else than naked and bare signs. No, we assuredly believe that by Baptism we are engrafted into Christ Jesus, to be made partakers of his righteousness, by which our sins are covered and remitted... (Chapter 21) (Emp.JSM17) John Calvin on baptism: This is in keeping with, for instance, the teaching of Calvin, who could write, in his 1547 Antidote to the Council of Trent, We assert that the whole guilt of sin is taken away in baptism, so that the remains of sin still existing are not imputed. That this may be more clear, let my readers call to mind that there is a twofold grace in baptism, for therein both remission of sins and regeneration are offered to us. We teach that full remission is made, but that regeneration is only begun and goes on making progress during the whole of life. Accordingly, sin truly remains in us, and is not instantly in one day extinguished by baptism, but as the guilt is effaced it is null in regard to imputation. Nothing is plainer than this doctrine. (Emp. JSM17) Augustine (Catholics) on baptism: "...as soon as they have been WASHED in the LAVER OF REGENERATION, and HAVE RECEIVED the FORGIVENESS OF ALL SIN. THEN is the time to escape all future sin, when ALL PAST SIN IS BLOTTED OUT." Wesley (Methodists) on baptism: Treatise, p. 192. "By water then, as a means, the water of baptism, we are regenerated and born again; whence it is called by the apostles 'The washing of regeneration'...Nor does [the Church] ascribe it to the outer washing, but to the inward grace, which added thereto, makes it a sacrament." (Emp. JSM17) The Bible teaches that baptism is for the forgiveness of sins. Even the reformers and others could see this. Even though they could not agree on the mode, they still taught what they taught. They are not my authority, yet to many on this forum they are the champions for many doctrinal ideas today. I understand that a majority of Baptists’ stand alone and that is good, but those who agree with the reformers such as those shown above may want to reconsider due to their position on baptism. Is see my on this forum talking about whether or not this group or that group are saved, listen if anyone teaches another doctrine then they are to be accursed. Either baptism is for the remission of sins or it is not. If not then label those who say it is, which includes those who claim to be a part of those groups above.