To believe the doctrine of Calvin or Arminius one must fully believe that the Baptist are a denomination and a protestant one. Calvin came out of Roman Catholicism and into the Dutch Reformed Church; Jacobus Arminius also came from the Dutch Reformed movement. Both came from reformation churches and denominations. Thus to follow their teachings would place the Baptist as a Denomination and a Protestant Church. The general Baptist did come from the teachings of John Smith (1570 – c. August 28, 1612).and Thomas Helwys (1575 – c.1616) Helwys writing the first Baptist articles of Faith http://www.reformedreader.org/ccc/edoc.htm . John Smythe in his confession for Baptist countered the Calvinism being taught in that day. Both men held in a doctrine of general atonement that Christ died for all people. Helwys however did teach a falling away from grace. Most Baptist however will rally in defense and say we are not a Denomination and we didn’t come out of the reformation. So why would a true Baptist want to settle for reformation doctrine. There were a number of Baptistic groups from the beginning of the church. The word of God says the first believers were known as those of the way, not The Way International as they are a cult but the Way. Then in Antioch Syria they were known as Christians. From there several groups existed, best known are the Donatist, Paulicians, Albigenses and Waldenses. All these believed that pedo-baptism was not scriptural; all believed that the Lords supper was to be a memorial, all believed the church was autonomous and they believed in Salvation by Grace through faith, they had some doctrinal issues grant it almost all do. All we have of most is the record of their enemies in the Catholic Church in their accusations against them. They labeled them as heretics and most being burned at the stake or hanged as far back as the 2nd century. But the basics of the New Testament church were adhered to. As to what we know they didn’t teach that atonement was limited nor that one could lose their salvation. At the beginning of the 11th Century that would begin in 1000 A.D. many in the baptistict groups felt Christ was returning and sold or gave their possessions to the poor and went into the hills to a wait Christ return. They were pre-trib, pre-mil. So again why do Baptist want to accept a reformation doctrine that was not taught previously and that came from a protestant church? By Dutch Reformers who were at odds with each other. It just doesn’t make sense to me.