Baptist Groups and KJVO vs. MVer

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  1. Phillip

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    I would like to see a lot of people post their denomination or specific Baptist group and exactly what they believe on the KJVO ladder.

    I am curious to know the relationship at least based on the sampling of this group.

    How 'bout it?
     
  2. Johnv

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    My church is mainline conservative SBC. No version-onlyism from the pulpit. Each person is welcome to use an edition or translation that suits their spiritual walk the best.
     
  3. Phillip

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    I'll go ahead and put my vote in too. I guess I am allowed to vote here. I'm just like JohnV.

    Mainline Conservative SBC. No version-onlyism from the pulpit. Each person welcome. Pastor does preach from KJV, but only because we have a lot of older people who are not use to it. But, he has been moving to a MV while explaining words. My guess is that he will be preaching full MV by next year. The older folks do not have a problem with it. He just thought they might. Most of them carry new Bibles. There are a couple that are KJVo, but they have believed much of the "removal" theory.
     
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    The church we are about to join is mainline conservative SBC.. No version onlyism. Pastor preaches from NIV.
     
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    Formerly IFB KJVO for over 4 years, now in recovery and attending a mainline SBC that preaches from the NIV. [​IMG]

    Having been on both sides of this issue, I hope to bring something of value to the discussions here. [​IMG]
     
  6. Phillip

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    Hi, sndesmith, Nice to debate wit' cha'.

    Yep, I've been on both sides too. Believe me, KJVo is hard to detox. Strong ill effects on the brain. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Fundamental, unaffiliated Baptist. Pastor preaches from the KJV but is not KJVO. He does believe in what he calls the "Byzantine Priority" position, that the Byzantine text is most likely to represent the autographs. He often recommends versions of than the KJV for personal study and reading but he does not believe "one version fits all" either.
     
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    "of" should read "other" but the anal retentive rules prevent me from editing my own post.
     
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    I'm just like JohnV also.
    Only he usually words it better than i do.
    But HaHa, i can say it MORE words ;)
     
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    True Baptist-True Bible
     
  11. Phillip

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    I noticed you belong to an "Old Time" militant Baptist (I know I shorted it). Does that mean that I get buck-shot if I cross you? :D

    Just kiddin' you know that don'cha granny......
     
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    Conservative ABC. And am not KJVO. Use one, love KJV, but just not Only.
     
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    IFB. I belong to a BBFI church that is not, by virtue of its constitution, KJVO. The Constitution was borrowed from several others. The part about the Bible which specifically lists the ASV and KJV as acceptable but not the RSV probably originated before the '70's.

    I separated from this church for a few months over the versions issue. A speaker had come into the church and preached that all versions other than the KJV were perversions. He spent a good 10 minutes of his sermon on it. I went to the previous pastor who happened to be a good friend and told him that I considered it blasphemy and needed to know where he stood on the issue. He eventually got around to professing KJVOnlyism- though when we were considering the church we had his assurances that he was KJV preferred.

    Since his departure, the founding pastor took back over. I discussed the issue with him and he agreed- with me. The KJVO pastor had not clearly explained why I separated from him at all. The current pastor not only invited us back but asked me to take the adult S/S and told me to feel free to cite other versions when I believed they translated a passage better.
     
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    Which of which, Granny?

    Which Baptist is true (implying all others false)?

    Which Bible is true (implying all others false)?
     
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    BTW, I am historic IFB. Home church (I'm a missionary) uses the KJV1769 revision as basic pulpit ministry. People prefer it.

    I have held meetings there explaining how we got the English Bible and why "onlyism" is a modern sect of Christianity to be eschewed. That tells what kind of church we have.

    I believe the Eastern Orthodox texts have many scribal additions and, though numerous, are not as accurate as the Western texts. So like the language/style of the NKJV, but prefer the Greek underlying the ASV1901
     
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    IFB.
    Mind you, by the standards of some on this board my church is on the liberal side of fundamentalism.
    Being native Dutch speakers we ofcourse don't use the KJB.
     
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    Indepedent Reformed Baptist Church. Fundlementalist in our beliefs, yet don't really associate with the name since we only teach the Fundelmentals that the Bible does, not adding are own like a good many of our IFB brothers.

    Pastor preaches from the ESV, which is the pew Bible and carried by the majority of members. Also a good many NASB holders. Church in general leans on more formal equvilent translations. A large population of Greek readers also who carry their Greek New Testaments.
     
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    Conservative IFB who attends a church with no formal denom ties, but follows IFB beliefs & practices such as Communion several times a year and foot-washing twice a year.(Is interesting, with some 2K members in attendance, but it gets done!) Pastor preaches mostly from the KJV, but is not KJVO & is active in denouncing the ACLU & other Communist or anti-Christian orgs.

    (I left one IFB church because its leadership did a very unScriptural thing, expelling a member who erred, unknown to all but God & himself, who admitted his sin, & asked God & man for forgiveness-but the men did NOT follow Christ in forgiveness.)
     
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    KJV preferred. Fundamental in the classic sense.Dr. Bob did a good explanation a while back.
    Baptistic generally in belief. Pre-trib,pre-mill.
    In the world but not of the world. Strong belief in the great commission hoping it is not going the way of "The 10 Suggestions".
    Beleive in get em in, get em saved, get em baptized,get em discipled , then worry about what they wear to church.
     
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    IFB Church. Our pew Bibles were changed about two years ago to NKJV without incident. Approx 75% of the folks carry KJV with them. I, as Pastor mostly preach/teach out of NKJV, almost all guest preachers use KJV. We're even having Spring Revival April 14-18, and the Evangelist is KJVO, but he knows my position, and he still is mature enough to not make an issue of it.He wants to see souls revived and souls saved, not version preferences...
     

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