Baptist? OSAS? pretrib or post-trib?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Ed Edwards, Oct 20, 2007.

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Which of the following to you believe?

Poll closed Feb 17, 2008.
  1. Baptist + OSAS + pretrib

    43.8%
  2. Baptist + OSAS + post-trib

    10.4%
  3. Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib

    2.1%
  4. Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib

    6.3%
  5. non-Baptist + OSAS + pretrib

    2.1%
  6. non-Baptist + OSAS + post-trib

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. non-Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. non-Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib

    6.3%
  9. not any three of those

    22.9%
  10. say what?

    6.3%
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  1. Ed Edwards

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  2. Ed Edwards

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    Be advised that this is a public poll: other users can see the choice(s) you selected.
     
  3. EdSutton

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    Pigeonholing, Ed Edwards! I have very definite views, and I think fairly conventional, and I'd also say pretty much in agreement with you, but, I am not going to define my beliefs by a word, an abbreviation, and a set of initials.

    Even though "Two 'Eds are better than one!"

    Ed
     
  4. BobRyan

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    Why would we expect a connection between OSAS and pretrib or post trib?
     
  5. I Am Blessed 24

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    Baptist + OSAS + pretrib
     
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you first 13 voters for helping.
    I timed this, so in four months it will close.
    Get your friends & relatives to vote.
    (I even have a no-vote vote for people
    who are still working on the matter).

    Againt, thank you.
     
  7. BobRyan

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    So far 33% of post trib are OSAS
     
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you first 22 voters for helping.
    I timed this, so in four months it will close.
    Get your friends & relatives to vote.
    (I even have a no-vote vote for people
    who are still working on the matter).

    Again, thank you !!
     
  9. StefanM

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    I'm Baptist, OSAS (although I prefer "perseverance of the saints" a la Calvin, though I'm not a Calvinist), and mid-trib.

    With my definition of the Great Tribulation (3.5 years), I'm pre-trib, but using the standard 7 year understanding, I'm mid-trib.
     
  10. David Lamb

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    I ticked "Not any three of those", because I am a baptist, I do believe that when Jesus Christ saves a sinner, that person stays saved, but I believe that the tribulation is the church age.
     
  11. BobRyan

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    So you are post-trib?
     
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    Not if this from Wikipedia is correct (and I recognise that Wikipedia is not always reliable):
    This doctrine holds that there is a Resurrection-Rapture of living believers in Jesus Christ at the end of the age (or the "End times"). Posttribulationists believe that Christians won't be taken up into (the 3rd) Heaven at the rapture, but will be gathered by the angels to meet Christ in the air, then return with him to enter the millennium on earth.

    But if by post-trib you just mean that Christ's Second Coming will occur after the tribulation, I would agree.
     
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    Up until about 6-7 years ago I was always "Baptist+OSAS+pre-trib". Then over the course of the next 3-4 years, I gradually became post-trib, non-OSAS, and non-Baptist, in that order.
     
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    Non-Baptist, OSAS, Mid-Tribulation Partial Rapture, Post-Trib Second coming.
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Most pretribulation rapture2 folk believe in a post-tribulation
    resurrection2. That is why for precision I mention a seperate
    believe I call 'post-tribulation resurrection2 ONLY'-ism (But
    most people call to confuse 'post-tribulation Second Coming'.

    Again, Sorry to use a lot of definitions but I've been talking to
    people about this on bbs (bulletin boards) alone for 23 years,
    not counting FTF (face-to-face).

    (I use '1', '2', & '3' etc so there is a difference in the word -
    to help avoid confusion).
    most people just use the two words without specifing which
    definition they are using - this is confusing)

    ressurrection1 - When Jesus changes a dead saint to
    a living saint and gives them a new body

    rapture1 -- When Jesus changes a living saint to
    to a new body

    resurrection2 - a one each, 48-hour-day event (often called the
    'Second Coming of Jesus') at the end of the Tribulation Period
    and the beginning of a physical Millennial Messanic kingdom
    in which Jesus performs a resurrection1 closely followed by
    a rapture1

    rapture2 - a one each, 48-hour-day event (often called the
    'Second Coming of Jesus for His own') at the end of
    the Church Age (aka: timesof the Gentiles)
    and the beginning of the Tribulation Period
    in which Jesus performs a resurrection1 closely followed by
    a rapture1

    resurrection3 - a resurrection of unjust folk
     
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    Are you post-Trib???

    since you claim the church-age is the age of the great trib (a good fit with Matt 24 "AFTER the tribulation of those days ...He will gather His elect)

    since you are not already raptured...

    You must believe in a post trib rapture and resurrection at the 2nd coming.




    Wait a second!! Are you ME???:laugh:

    Post Trib Second coming.

    Saints raptured up to heaven at the second coming.
    Dead saints resurrected at the 2nd coming and taken to heaven.

    John 14:1-4 promise fulfilled!

    (There is an entire denomination nof "ME" -- how about you? Are your beliefs held by your church as well?)

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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  17. Ed Edwards

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    Here is the current 'score':

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    25 Oct 2004

    http://www.baptistboard.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=2024

    Which of the following to you believe?
    This poll will close on 02-17-2008 at 05:42 PM

    15 46.88% == Baptist + OSAS + pretrib
    03 09.38% == Baptist + OSAS + post-trib
    00 00.00% == Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib
    03 09.38% == Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib
    00 00.00% == non-Baptist + OSAS + pretrib
    00 00.00% == non-Baptist + OSAS + post-trib
    00 00.00% == non-Baptist + non-OSAS + pretrib
    03 09.38% == non-Baptist + non-OSAS + post-trib
    07 21.88% == not any three of those
    01 03.13% == say what?

    Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32.
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  18. Plain Old Bill

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    Throw another log on the fire. Baptist OSAS pre-trib rapture:godisgood:
     
  19. Squire Robertsson

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    On the matter of OSAS, a person can't lose what they never had in the first place.
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Squire Robertsson -- Preach it! :thumbs:

    That is the meaning of the 'OS' part of "OSAS" --
    Once Saved = OS.

    (OSAS = Once Saved, Always Saved)
    Ed notices that Once Saved is by Jesus;
    Always Saved is by Jesus.
    Neither is by works, lest we go around bosting
    a lot. :(


     

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