Baptist Traditions? Drinking alcohol & dancing

By the way Bapmom how does drinking alcohol in moderation get in ones way with their relationship with God ? Seems a heart that judges others would be more harmful

 

Again Webdog right on

This was exactly OUR experence in the 2 IFB churches we went to. Woman MUST wear dresses, no Biblical bases, Drinking IS a SIN. King James ONLY, Pastor were too controling over the congregation, Dancing is a SIN, all music but what they approved of was a SIN et. et. Give me break way too much bondage and not rightly dividing the word for us.
The outward appearance was MORE important than the inward HEART.

 

RFW,

Im not judging you, and btw, In not "unchilled" either.

But, just as in other threads, you've decided that Im judging you and that is how you are going to relate to me.

Like I was saying to webdog....my church is a very warm, loving, accepting IFB church....which also preaches against drunkenNESS, and other things. I never said that drinking was a sin in and of itself. EVER. Yet you keep talking like I did.

Im not taking most of what you say personally, except for when you intimate that Im legalistic and judgemental. Like your last comment "Seems a heart that judges otheres would be more harmful." Obviously you think Im judging you and others.

Yet you saw my last post to webdog and you want to ignore it. I can't help that.

I can only say that this board is very unfriendly to anyone with conservative standards.

 

The extremes on the alcohol question was driven home to me a few years back, when I heard both extremes on the radio not very many days apart.

The first gentleman had been an alcoholic, staying drunk for 20 years. He claimed that since alcoholism was a sickness that he could not control, then his 20 years of drunkeness was not a sin.

The second gentleman, on a different program, said that not only was all drinking a sin, but anyone who assisted others to drink was sinning. He included waiters in restaurants, grocery baggers at the store who would bag beer for customers, and anyone who worked for such restaurants and grocery stores.

I take both of these positions to be incorrect.

Here's my two-cents worth: The most common argument about abstaining from alcohol is to not cause a weaker brother to stumble. This is correct. I do not want to cause anyone to stumble or offend anyone. However, I have found that there are many, many more legalistic teetotalers who are offended by the idea of anyone drinking than there are recovering alcoholics who might be tempted.

Therefore, I do not drink, but it is because I don't want to offend the legalistic bretheren in the church who are mistaken about alcohol.

 

Bapmom give it up, you already dug the hole, no trying to get out now.

 

I'm very conservative, just not judgmental and leagalistic. BALANCE is the key to all truth, when it comes to Gods word.

 

RIGHT ON Humblesmith


Thats why I said to read ROMANS chapter 14 that totally deals with this subject.

 

RFW, I have even read on here that going to the beach or public pool was a sin!

 

RFW,

why are you so awful to me? I did not dig any hole at all.

I said what I thought, I was in no way judging any other person. Just as YOU said what YOU thought....

Why do I not get the same respect?

You know, I do take some things from you personally now...based on how you hounded me all day yesterday in PMs. Some of the things you said to me were way out of line, yet never an apology. I never asked for a PM from you, but yo kept after me, and now you respond to me in the most condescending manner! Of course, I should be expecting it, since thats how you treat lots of other people here.

 

Webdog I have another story for you, you won't believe.

We lived on a busy rd. and one VERY HOT Saturday I was outside playing catch with my son, and he had his shirt off, pants on mind you. Well the next day at church he had to hear from another kid in class who's family had driven by that he was naked and he shouldn't have been. Can you believe that ( same church by the way ) they also taught that boys and girls should never swim together, my boys went to camp and this was true.

Whatever

 

Bapmom I never received an apology from you about YOU not correcting the guys who rudely and judgmentally attacked my on another forum. I guess once YOU take sides thats it. If you want to be so gunho on correcting wrongs then you should have been there for me. So just drop it ok. I'm not stupid

 

I've been warned now about the few that are troublmakers. NOW I KNOW BETTER.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

 

RFW,

like I said before, after reading your posts along with theirs Im not so sure they weren't correct.

ALSO like I said, I did not see anything of the posts they had written about you until AFTER they had been long written. AND like I said, IM NOT THE BOARD POLICE here.!

 

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Bapmom
"But don't you think that really the fact that they abstained from alcohol was a side issue in your story?"
"
Yes ofcourse, that's the thing with minds wandering.

 

OK Dallas I sure hope that goes both ways ? Bapmom is giving it to me pretty hard on this thread, don't you think ?

I feel I have every right to defend myself when she misperceives me.

 

I'm flatly against drinking and dancing. It's extremely difficult to keep a beat when you've consumed alcohol.

One should not dance and drink at the same time.

 

But there are many where it's permitted. Like the weddings, passovers, and sabbaths. In fact, Jesus' first miracle was making wine for a wedding feast.

 

John .....OH MY,That was so funny.... I envy guys like you who are quick witted on the board. I can do it in person but not on the board go figure ?

 

My wit only works half as fast when I have to type. Does that mean I'm a half-wit???