Don't want to hijack the thread re the founding fathers. I am reading up on history and find it fascinating that much that we take for granted governmentally was given to us by the early Baptists in this country. Soul freedom under the absolute Lordship of Jesus Christ makes for free, responsible citizens. It is interesting to see that without our early Baptists, especially those of Virginia, we might not be a democracy today. And I wonder, now that some Baptists substitute pastoral authority and elder rule for soul freedom and pure congregationalism, what the effect will be on the nation at large. What think ye?