Baptists Many Years Ago

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  1. rufus

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    Baptists I grew up with, believed and avoided certain things.

    1. Modernism - The liberal tendency to deny full inerrancy to God's Word and the fall of many churches into that tendency.

    2. Modern Tongues Speaking and Healings - The Charismatic movement was believed to be anti-Scriptural, with all its private language talk and all its miracles of healing (so called).

    3. Open Communion - Allowing lost and/or non-church members to the Lord's Supper was taboo. The Lord's Supper was reserved for faithful church members only.

    4. Alien Baptism - Sprinkling or pouring was believed to be anti-Scriptural regarding Baptism. Anyone desiring to join a BMA Baptist Church had to be IMMERSED, after showing evidence of true conversion. Non-Baptist baptism was rejected as unscriptural.

    5. Pulpit affiliation - Allowing a non-Baptist or a straying Baptist preachers to preach in a BMA Baptist Church pulpit was prohibited. Exchanging pulpits with Methodists, COC, AOG, and even some Baptists, etc. was NOT done.

    6. Ecumenism - The unity in diversity emphasis was rejected by BMA Baptists because it seemed to sacrifice truth on the altar of compromise with God's Word.

    7. Local Church Only - BMA Baptists stood firm on this emphasis, believing that compromise in this area would result in open communion, pulpit affiliation, alien baptism and open ecumenism endorsing modern tongues and healings and modernism. It was firmly believed and stated that NO universal church existed in Scripture teaching.
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    1. Believed in and practiced "church discipline."

    A. Pastors and Deacons were held accountable by the churches of the BMA. Scriptural qualifications had to be met in order to serve in either office. Divorced and remarried men were prohibited from serving.

    B. Church members were held accountable for holding to sound doctrine and Christian living. Anyone found holding heretical beliefs, were counseled and then excluded (if repentance was not made). Anyone found living in adultery, fornication, etc was rebuked and then excluded (if not repentant).

    2. Believed in and practiced personal evangelism and discipleship. It was every member's place to tell the story of Jesus and to be in some kind of discipleship training such as Sunday School, BTS, or Wednesday auxiliary.

    3. Believed in and practiced personal prayer and public altar calls. The tears that flowed in those days when prayer was being offered is hardly seen anymore. And the altars FULL of weeping, repenting, beseeching people was a natural occurence.

    4. Believed in and practiced the withdrawing from sister churches who did not continue to follow the agreed upon statements of faith and who did not honor the discipline of churches over their members.
     
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    What you describe is Landmarkism... I grew up in that also.
     
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    Tim, I think you overstate the case quite a bit. The churches of the BMAA hold to a Landmark ecclesiology, so you correct to an extent. But a number of things mentioned by Rufus are not peculiar to Landmarkism and can be and are held by non-Landmark Baptists as well -- e.g. opposition to tongues, charismata, ecumenism and modernism, the use of altar calls, personal evangelism and discipleship, church discipline, etc.
     
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    I just recognized the tenets of the landmark's beliefs....
    but you are right...
    I still agree with some of the above, but am not a Landmark.
     
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    That sounds like the BMA churches that I know today.

    btw - if everyone in the BMA practiced personal evangelism there would be a lot more BMA churches because the current churches wouldn't hold them all. Same goes for SBC, ABA or whatever other brand you want to name.
     
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    Define inerrancy.





    Don’t see a lot of it in Baptist Churches even today. Should missionaries be dis-qualified and sent home for any “charismatic” beliefs?




    Scripture for this belief?



    Scripture for this belief?



    Scripture for this? The Sword of the Lord types once black balled one of their own IFBr’s because he had WA Criswell preach in his church.



    Scripture that says you should separate from fellow believers?


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    This pretty much sums up why many no longer care to associate with these type of fundies and why you have a hard time finding them anymore.
     
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    what does BMA mean?
     
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    More than you think

    There are more of US than you think.

    I will not waste time proving with Scriptures.
     
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    BMA Means

    Baptist Missionary Association of America (BMAA)
     
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    The usual response which also leads many to think they are unscriptual directives.

    By the way, which local Church is Paul refering to:

    Eph 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
     
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    Who Says?

    Grasshopper, that's what we believe and you can't change it!

    :sleeping_2:
     
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    The church I grew up in believed:

    1. That all Catholics were on a greased slide to hell.
    2. That the KKK was a misunderstood organization, and black people have no business joining our church.
    3. That Jewish people don't need to know about Jesus because they were already saved through their relationship to Abraham.
    4. That walking down the aisle, saying you love Jesus and getting baptized was the beginning and end of our calling in Christ.
    5. That Jack Chick presented solid theology in his tracts.
    6. That using manipulation and overt pressure on children to "get baptized" was a biblical and effective evangelism technique.
    7. That Christians who asked questions about their faith that stepped outside the bounds of "happy talk" were people to be disciplined and/or shunned.

    Thank God that He changed that church in the 1980s, and I was delivered from that oppressive environment!
     
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    But the Holy Spirit should not be resisted.

    Resistance to the clear teaching of scripture is not a virtue... it is rebellion and hardening against God.
     
  14. Grasshopper

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    Of course you won't change. I never knew any IFBr's that did. I just ask you to defend it which you choose not to do. This is also typical.

    Just which church was Paul speaking of? It is an easy question, isn't it????
     
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    Interesting personal pyschological/spiritual venture, friend. Fortunately, WE didn't believe ANY of those things. :type:
     
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    You are SO correct, friend! Good point.

    :thumbs:
     
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    Why should WE change. WE believe we have the truth; don't you. Why should WE change the truth; and into WHAT.

    BTW, I KNOW some IFBr's but I "are not one."

    Like I said, I will not waste time defending OUR position with Scripture. WE know what WE believe and WE know upon what BASIS WE believe it.

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    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You said it all.
     
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    I went to the same church only in Oklahoma.

    Amen, Brother Baptist Believer (BBB) -- Preach it! :thumbs:
     
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    Who? When? Where?
     

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