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Barack Obama, John McCain, Top Story Dems Blast McCain After Bailout Negotiati

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

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    .......But they also spread the blame to the Republican presidential nominee, who on Wednesday announced he was suspending his campaign to work on the negotiations and called for such a high-level meeting of candidates and officials in Washington, D.C.

    “Here’s my observation and I think this may have been confirmed at the meeting today — when you inject presidential politics into delicate negotiations, sometimes it’s not helpful. The cameras change things,” Obama told FOX News after the meeting ended. “It’s not clear to me that having presidential candidates in a high-profile way in the negotiating process is useful.”.....


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    Either Obama has forgotten he is a senator or he s playing politics. The latter most likely true. The Dems are screaming all over the place over this. Usually a result of a threat and no argument.
     
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    I would have to agree with Obama - it is hard for much to get done when there are high profile characters involved.

    Maybe this is why we will have our first senator becoming president since Kennedy.
     
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    Just exactly how does their status interfere with this?
     
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    With their high profiles they have to VERY careful during any discussions. They are both watching the polls. A 'normal' member of Congress can say or do something 'dumb' and get cut some slack. Such high profiles cases as Obama and McCain will be far less comfortable expressing views and thoughts, instead the temptation will be to politic instead of govern.
     
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    It seems to me this is a prime opportunity for a Presidential candidate to show their position and leadership. Instead Obama wants to criticize. But that is obviously his leadership style.
     
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    Truth is they could do both - the could spend today in the Senate and have their debate at 9.00 tonight. There is no need to hang around DC after the Senate has adjourned for the day.

    Still see this as a political shows on both parts - they are both are doing what they think will work the best for them.
     
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    I believe McCains point was to stay until a deal is reached. No adjourning. Personally I prefer no deal at all.
     
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    Wow - we agree again,
     
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    I agree except it is clear McCain is going to make the Dem's eat their words. He has a plan to save the nation which became clear to me when the ultra conservatives didn't make the meeting last night and withdrew from the ground that was made. What we see today will be all staging for McCain to save the Nation (complete with cape and damsel in distress...). He is just waiting for Obama to leave DC and head for the debate to drop the bomb.

    This is another hail Mary but McCain has been good at these plays so far. The question I have is do we want a president that keeps turning to the hail Mary. I believe it was a hail Mary that got us in Iraq and I prefer a leader who won't gamble with what impact me.
     
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    This is an historic day! I agree with both of you. That shows how broad based the resentment of the American people is for this $700B (and counting) giveaway is.
     
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    And if it was McCain that stopped it, good for him.
     
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    So, he did not want them to give a blank check to the same people who messed this up already--and this is a problem?
     
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    It seems all these democrat ponzi schemes are crumbling around them. America is very angry, and I would not want to be an incumbent democrat who's seat is up, this November.

    I gotta say, I'm LOVIN' my new spell checker......
     
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    If the democrats want to do this - why don't they just do it?

    They don't need the Republicans to pass this?

    Why the disconnect between their words and their actions?
     
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    Are we in two different worlds, it's the republicans that are stalling the negotiations and it's the republican's that are in fear of loosing more seats. 8 years of Bush is beyond the Dem's wildest dreams for a campaign endorsement.

    American is angry, but they are angry at the republican's policies and the rich getting richer while the common man fails...

    You sure you're in this country?
     
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    politics my man, politics... Why should the Dems take sole blame for this blank check when they know the Republican's will loose seats since their constituents are the most loudest voices against it. Frankly, if I were a dem, I would be back home campaigning and tell the repub's to call me when you're ready to vote. It is their voters who are against it, their president and treasurer who presented it and their skin if it passes... Isn't life nice for the Dems?
     
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    I'm excited about the repubs blocking this illegal money grab. Next, they should get to work on others, like SS, & welfare.

    And with a president who likes the bill, and dem majorities in both houses, this bill should just sail right thru, despite the GOP balking, shouldn't it ?

    Why do you suppose the dems don't want to push this thru ?

    Man, I get better arguments from my toaster.
     
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    More correctly stated it is unconstitutional
     
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