Barack Obama, the Quintessential Liberal Fascist

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

    Barack Obama, the Quintessential Liberal Fascist
    By Kyle-Anne Shiver

    EXCERPT

    I think of Obama's liberal fascism as a cancer that attempts to kill the two birds of American exceptionalism with one stone. It is a deviously appealing Third Way that in the end, if allowed to triumph completely, kills both individual liberty and Judeo/Christian religion with its single stone.

    And, indeed this was the precise goal of Adolph Hitler. Unlike the outspoken hatred of private property and religion espoused by communists under Lenin and Stalin, Hitler preferred the more moderate-seeming incremental takeover of private enterprise in the interest of the "common good," and the slow-death of Judeo/Christian religion by chipping away at it and replacing the people's dependence upon God gradually with reliance on the state (Hitler).

    SNIP

    When Barack Obama promises "collective redemption" through his profligate spending programs and vast overtures to a new world order built on love for our fellow man, we ought to shudder not swoon.

    We ought to remember that healthy global relationships are built upon respect, not all-encompassing love, and that redemption for one's soul is a commodity the state is not empowered to offer.

    As Pope Benedict XVI has so presciently warned:

    Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes, not divine, but demonic.

    Be not fooled, America. The movement, which appears most benign is instead the most malignant growth ever seen on our soil. It's a cancer that will kill, and however slowly it grows or however nice it may look on the surface, doesn't change a thing.
     
  2. Freedom

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    This article contains one unsupported Fascist lie after another but its the radical author's lies and it's the radical author who's the fascist. Isn't it great fun calling the President of the US a fascist without any support for that outrageous statement? And you call yourself a patriot?
     
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    You should address each lie, if you can. You should list them, and explain what the lies are.

    Then you should come clean with us, here, so you can call out lies without the beam in your eye.

    And no, it isn't fun calling a sitting president a facist. He is destroying the economy, and there is little funny about that. But then again, you've called Bush a murderer, was that fun for you ?
     
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    That's not going to happen and we both know it.

    Trolls like sweeping statements with no basis of fact or proof.
     
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    A fascist by any other name is still a fascist.

    If had to choose between Obama's NWO and the Bushies NWO I'd still choose the constitution of the USA and consider carefully the warnings of our founders. That would of course make me no friends on either side and an enemy of the state.

    Hmmmm.

    I can live with that. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Let's see...

    As we examine the policies of our "President", what definition fits?

    Fascist?
    Marxist?
    Socialist?

    Interesting other fact. This "great man" has legal teams across the country fighting efforts to make him produce his birth certificate to prove that he was born in this country and is therefore eligible to hold the office of President. Why would he do this? Wouldn't it be a simple thing to lay the matter to rest?

    Unless of course, he is not constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President. Which, of course, would mean that we have a constitutional crisis in this country.

    Ignoring this, we can be sure will result in these people making our country into the latest 3rd world country.

    Case in point (3rd world country) ... Geitner gets LAUGHED AT by the Chinese? The Chinese who hold a large portion of our t-bills? The RED Chinese? The ones who consider us their ENEMY? The country who is buying Hummer from Chrysler? WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?????

    Where is America? Why is the Federal Government taking over private enterprise?

    Oh yeah, and let's not forget that the latest self-proclaimed duty of the "President" is to defend ISLAM??? Have we forgotten 9/11 so soon?
     
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    Actually there is enough evidence available that "bho" is a Fascist he could be impeached for treason!
     
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    This is the type of hate mail/news that Fox news is talking about in the post by Ken.
     
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    Umm...it's been defined. While you're launching your infantile verbal grenades, some of us have shown Obama's fascist tendencies.

    One definition of Fascism is the system whereby a government, though technically allowing private ownership of business, controls the production process.

    If you don't see that in this current administration, I'm not sure what can be done...I would then conclude you are either unwilling or unable to see the obvious.

    **more on next post**
     
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    Look, Freedom (and a few others)...you can disagree if you'd like...but if I (and/or others) show by defining our terms how we've come to believe Obama is fascist, then you cannot accuse us of being knee-jerk in our reactions. By our proof, even if you disagree with it, you must admit that we've thought through this.

    Here is a marvelous explanation, IMO, of fascism...one that is less about visceral reaction-getting and more about factual explanation:


    As I use the term, fascism is defined as a political system whose...
    1. Aim is utopian;
    2. Creed derives from Sorelian mythology and social militarism;
    3. Metaphysics are secular (or pagan) and materialistic;
    4. Epistemology is the movement;
    5. Ethics are pragmatism;
    6. Methods are authoritarian and totalitarian;
    7. Leadership is F├╝hrerism (the Great Man);
    8. Orientation is socialist;
    9. Politics are populist/Progressive;
    10. Economics are corporatism;
    11. Scope is nationalist;
    12. Organization is collectivist.
    (from HERE; although I've seen it many other places)

    I think the "Scope is nationalist" is weak, and doesn't apply here so much...but the others IMO are spot on.

    The mistake many make is trying to make "fascist" and "Adolf Hitler" one and the same. They are not. I'm not calling Obama Hitler. But I do call him a fascist. And I've defined why. You may disagree...but you cannot rightfully claim I haven't thought this through.
     
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    When corporatism finds it's geat leader you have fascism.

    When Boy Scouts are being trained to subdue disgruntled veterans who disagree with the corporate state you have fascism.

    When citizens are pressed into mandatory public service to the corporate state such as the great leader and his flunkies have suggested you have fascism.

    When the corporate state starts scapegoating it's own citizens by producing propaganda that labels them as would be terrorists and enemies of the corporate state you have fascism.

    When you have a militarized police force being trained to look upon citizens as terrorist threats because they question and disagree with the corporate state or protest against it you have fascism.

    When there is a determined media propaganda campaign aimed at encouraging citizens to snitch on their neighbors who may fit the corporate state's definition of a terrorist threat you have fascism.

    When there is a determined media propaganda campaign aimed at silencing all dissent against the corporate state you have fascism.

    When you have a corporate state that wishes to disarm you and leave you defensless and at the mercy of the corporate state and it's militarized police force you have fascism.

    I'm sure I missed a few things but hey I haven't even had my second cup of coffee yet.
     
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    I have disagree with you on one point. I think he's more liberal than a fascist. I say he much closer to being communist than fascist. At the rate he's going the government will own everything & the people will own nothing. From that point, the only thing left to be done is to tell people what they are going to do for the rest of their lives like they do in China.

    The only good thing that can come out of this is he can legally only be in office for no more than 8 years (if people are that stupid to vote for him again). I just hope by that time the damage he is causing our nation can be fixed &/or reversed.
     
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    Mr. Obama and his administration does indeed display a penchant towards international socialism but that makes him no less a coprorate fascist. He along with our congress and the mass media are controlled by the mega conglomerated multi-national corporations not the other way around as so many assume these days.
     
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    Worried

    That's if they pay any attention to the constitution and haven't declared martial law and consolidated his power by then. At the speed he is moving, I am not certain that he will be out in 8 years.

    An interesting little twist on election law can be found here http://http://www.sos.ga.gov/pressrel/2009_releases/June/20090601Obama%20Justice%20Department%20Decision%20Will%20Allow%20Non-Citizens%20to%20Register%20to%20Vote%20in%20Georgia.htm

    Basically the Justice Department has decided that using Social Security numbers and Driver Licenses to determine voting eligibility is bad. I might agree if it stopped there, but the Georgia plan called for sending a letter to people asking them to produce proof of citizenship before striking them from the eligible voters role. If they produce proof, keep them on. Sensible election reform unless your goal is to stack the electorate with illegal aliens who will push the vote to the left.

    Add to that the fact that they have ACORN out there making sure the ballot boxes get stuffed with illegal votes as well.

    I am very worried about what this administration is doing behind the scenes to defraud the American people of the freedoms guaranteed to us in the U.S. Constitution.
     
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    To put it politely you are incorrect or misinformed or the victim of the leftist media!:smilewinkgrin::tongue3::laugh::wavey:
     
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    Your logic is a little faulty BigBossman. If you are correct about this person "bho" what makes you think he will not become our "dear leader" for life like the little fat man in NK?
     
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    I believe that the possiblility of him throwing the Constitution out the window is there. The scary part he has the authority to postpone the election.

    I believe if this were to happen (which its very possible) there would complete & total chaos. Americans would have a problem with this & there would be an uprising to overthrow him. I would also be among them. I don't like the idea of being governed by a dictator even if its an American dictator.
     
  18. Freedom

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    Who's a troll? Let's discuss what you posted. OK? You claim that the President of the United States is a liberal fascist. I'd say the onus is on you to support that claim not on me to disprove it. You're up.
     
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    Obama's done enough to prove it.

    And may I add you demand a lot for a guy who won't admit his past identities.
     
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    This wasn't directed at me...but:

    I've defined my terms. I've given examples. I've done my job on the issue.

    I can't help outright denial. Should you ignore what I've posted, it's not my problem.

    But don't claim that it hasn't been explained. You're flat-out wrong on that one.
     

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