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Barack Obama, the Quintessential Liberal Fascist

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    Where did he get the authority to fire the CEO of GM? Where does he get the authority to determine company executives pay? Where does he get the authority to appoint 15+ czars? Nowhere! He simply takes it! That is dictatorship any way you look at it.
     
  2. carpro

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    :laugh: You wouldn't dare.
     
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    Deja vu, all over again. :laugh: I thought the same thing during the last administration.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles

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    The same place every other POTUS gets it. Executive orders for one. Remember Porn Czar Ed Meece under Reagan? As for GM, when you take Uncle Sam's money, he is now the owner and can hire, fire, and set comp rates.
     
  5. Freedom

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    Try me if you dare.
     
  6. OldRegular

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    Buffalo Chips MP!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
  7. Dave

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    Where does the constitution state that the government has any business bailing out corporations? There is no provision for that at all. The government should not be running those companies it is true, but they also should not have given taxpayer money to them. Even if doing this gave him the right to hire and fire, did it give him the right to defraud the bondholders while giving the company to his political friends?

    Obama's spending spree is going to have dire economic consequences. The government does not have an unlimited supply of money at it's disposal. At least not without triggering rampant inflation. And I am sure you can recall that the Chinese (the biggest holder of t-bills) were getting nervous a short time ago and needed our goverrnment to reassure them that the bonds were good. Probably giving them Hummer was part of the deal.
     
  8. Revmitchell

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    And Gheitner and Clinton were soundly laughed at for making such ridiculous statements.
     
  9. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    It's been tried.

    You have not proven even one statement in the OP to be false.

    And you won't dare to try.

    Go away , troll.
     
  10. LeBuick

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    I guess this guy didn't read the bible...
     
  11. LeBuick

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    Article 1 section 8. It's called the elastic clause and basically says congress can do what it feels necessary... Not sure why the forefathers put it there but that is the common use of the clause.

     
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    Do you understand what forgoing means? You have offered no explanation,
     
  13. LeBuick

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    I do Sir but I am not the one who has to be convinced... That is why this clause, the elastic clause, is the most debated part of the constitution. Legal scholars along with constitutional professors don't all agree as to exactly what it means.

    The question asked was how does congress do what it did. The answer is this clause. You don't have to agree, but that is the answer.
     
  14. Revmitchell

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    Baloney they are not even trying to consult the constitution. They are just doing it. And there is no evidence that you even know what your talking about.
     
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    Now our fascist president wants the government to be able to seize businesses that "might" be in trouble.

    Almost every day, there is a new move to seize control of our businesses and our lives.
     
  16. OldRegular

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    In the past people have talked about the "imperial" presidency. Now we have a despotic presidency. I wonder hoe long the American people will continue:sleeping_2::sleeping_2::sleeping_2: :sleeping_2: .
     
  17. Freedom

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    Why do you degrade our President by calling him fascist? Maybe you need to live in a truly fascist state like Iran for a while. Do you really believe in a true democracy?
     
  18. LeBuick

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    Just google the phrase "elastic clause"

    Heck, there is even a Wiki on this one clause of the constitution

    How did you think Congress got all the power it has? According to them, it's in the constitution...

    Here is the essence of the dispute...

    As you can see, we operate under option 1 which came from Patrick Henry instead of option 2 which was the beliefs of Alexander Hamilton and James Madison. You being Federalist would naturally take to option 2 but unfortunately option 1 is the hidden secret to how we operate.

    The fact is Rev, our founding fathers and architect of the constitution didn't agree on this clause. And you want me to explain the word "foregoing"??? Folks with law degree's ad our founding fathers don't agree on that word.

    So, the question asked was how does congress get the power it has. The answer is this clause. You don't have to agree, but that is the answer.
     
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    Go away, Troll.
     
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    Wow...so you think this gives our President the authority to run private businesses?

    Wow.

    Well...I guess if you are "elastic" enough, then Obama cannot do anything wrong.


    I bet the people of Poland had an "elastic clause" in the 1930's...
     
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