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BASIC FACTS TO KNOW ABOUT VACCINATIONS

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    1. Vaccines are toxic.

    *Vaccines contain substances poisonous to humans (i.e. mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, etc.) Vaccine package inserts contain this and other information required by law to be disclosed to the public. Although these inserts are produced for consumers, doctors do not make them available to their patients.
    *Vaccines are grown on and contain foreign tissue and altered genetic material of both human and animal origin.

    2. Immunization (the act of injecting vaccines) depresses and disables brain and immune function. Honest, unbiased scientific investigation has shown vaccinations to be a causative factor in many illnesses including:

    *Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (aka SIDS, crib or cot death)
    *developmental disorders (autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia, etc.)
    *immune deficiency (i.e. AIDS, Epstein Barre Syndrome, etc.)
    *degenerative disease (i.e. muscular dystrophy, multiple sclerosis, arthritis, cancer, leukemia, lupus, fibromyalgia, etc.)

    3. The high rate of adverse vaccine reactions is being ignored and denied by conventional medicine.

    *Prior to 1990, doctors were not legally required to report adverse reactions to the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
    *Adverse reactions are considered "normal", are ignored or diagnosed as other diseases. Even with this poor system, reported damage is substantial.
    *Despite their current legal obligation, less than 10% of doctors report the damage they witness to the CDC.
    *Throughout history, many prominent medical and non-medical health professionals around the world have voiced their vehement opposition to vaccination calling it scientific fraud.

    4. Mass Vaccination Programs systematically and recklessly endanger the public while disregarding our rights.

    *Since vaccination breaks the skin, it is technically a surgery. All surgeries by law require informed consent. Informed consent is rarely attained before vaccines are administered.
    *Doctors vaccinate the unwitting and uninformed. The vaccine manufacturers' package inserts which contain biased industry claims and the bare minimum required by law to reveal are not routinely made available to consumers so that they can make a more informed choice.
    *Double-talk and unethical enforcement such as threats, intimidation and coercion are used to ensure vaccination compliance.

    5. There is no proof that vaccinations are safe or effective.

    *There are no control group studies. Authorities consider that "to not vaccinate" is unethical and have refused to study unvaccinated volunteers. If control studies were done according ' to honest science, vaccination would be outlawed.
    *Studies which have been done are not designed to eliminate the examiners bias. Authorities who compile and report disease statistics work closely with and have a vested interest in companies which produce the vaccines. In other industries, this kind of bias is not tolerated. Injuries and deaths in these studies are attributed to anything but vaccination to skew the results and make it appear that vaccines have some merit.

    6. Laws allow drug companies to violate the public trust.

    *In private vaccine damage suits, information is revealed condemning vaccines as deadly.
    *Vaccine manufacturers use "gag orders" as a leverage tool in vaccine damage legal settlements to restrict the plaintiff from disclosing to the public the truth about the dangerous nature of vaccines. Our government has allowed these unethical tactics to be used which jeopardize public welfare.

    7. The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1987 is a pacifier.

    *This compensation program pretends to acknowledge the existence of vaccine damage by making "right" the wrongs done. Nothing in this Act attempts to avert these adverse events from happening in the future.
    *This Act is the result of vaccine producers pressuring the government to "immunize" them from private lawsuits which can run an average of $4 million per case.
    *The fund is made up of tax added into the cost to the consumer of each vaccine, thereby making vaccine consumers pay for one another's and perhaps their own injury; the vaccine manufacturers have made themselves quite "immune" from accountability. In recent years it has become even more difficult to be compensated through this program due to the parameters for determining vaccine damage changing and coroners now ruling out vaccine damage and charging the parents with Shaken Baby Syndrome.

    8. Private insurance companies, which do the best liability studies, have totally abandoned coverage for damage to life and property due to:

    *Acts of God
    *Nuclear war and nuclear power plant accidents
    *Vaccination

    9. Vaccination is not emergency medicine.

    *It is claimed that vaccines avert a possible future risk and yet people are pressured to decide on the spot. A doctor's use of fear and intimidation to force compliance is not ethical. Vaccines are drugs with potential serious adverse reactions. Time and forethought should be given before a decision is made.

    10. There is no law enforcing vaccination for babies or anyone else.

    *Vaccination is linked with school attendance but is not compulsory. Exemptions from vaccinations, although restricted and monitored, are part of every state public health law and can be expanded by public pressure.
    *Departments of Health, Education and the American Medical Association personnel profit from the sale of vaccines. They keep the existence of and details about exemptions relatively unknown.

    Source Vaccination Liberation
     
  2. Daisy

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    On the other hand, smallpox has been eradicated and polio is almost unheard of in vaccinated populations (North and South America were certified as polio-free in 1994 (linkie), but an outbreak occured in the Netherlands among the unvaccinated in 1992-3 - 2 died and 59 were paralyzed (linkie). Rabies is extremely rare among vaccinated animals - control tests have certainly been done with animals; I believe with people as well although it would be to repeat such experiments with common, already accepted vaccines.

    Whooping cough:
     
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    Someone's been watching too many Gary Trudeau infomercials.
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Your just full of jokes Poncho. Have you ever been abducted by aliens?
     
  6. Johnv

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    I can't find any place in scripture where it says Christians are forbidden from vaccinating their children. IF someone wants to refrain out of person choice, that's fine. But to invoke a "religious objection" to do so is an abuse of Christianity, imo.
     
  7. poncho

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    I was wondering how long it would take for the mindgaurds to come out in this thread. 17 hours. You guys must be getting slow.

    Oh, the feeling of power you must get from childish remarks like this. :rolleyes:
     
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    Polio was so ubiquitus and dangerous that the vaccine was worth the danger. The normal childhood illnesses are not sufficiently dangerous to accept the risk of the vaccines.
     
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    I missed the best thread, yet!
     
  10. poncho

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    1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

    1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.

    1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

    1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

    1 Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.


    "Hey what's in those vaccines you keep letting strangers put into your children?"

    "I dunno but the world's wisest people say they need em, so I guess it's gotta be so." [​IMG]

    "Why don't you bother to check out the ingredients first?"

    "Because I can take the world's wisest peoples word for the safety of their products...that's why, now leave me be."

    [ October 06, 2005, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: poncho ]
     
  11. Johnv

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    I don't say this lightly. To use those verses to imply that vaccination is scripturally forbidden, that's sheer perversion of scripture.
     
  12. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    The implication isn't that vaccinations are scripturally forbidden. The implication is that to willing allow someone to inject or be forced into injecting a substance into your body without knowing the ingredients and all the dangers is, well, a sheer perversion of sanity. IMHO. And I don't say that lightly. ;)
     
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    Easily resolved. Ask them to read the label and accompanying documentation to you and explain any confusing terms. Or you could read it yourself. Reading is useful for this sort of thing.
     
  14. poncho

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    Easily resolved. Ask them to read the label and accompanying documentation to you and explain any confusing terms. Or you could read it yourself. Reading is useful for this sort of thing. </font>[/QUOTE]Agreed! That's why I posted the link, so people I care about would have alot of important information at their fingertips to read. Gotta be a thousand links in that one homepage up there.

    From the looks of it though I guess it's more enjoyable to poke fun at people that care about you than to look at information they present. Thank you for not being one of those people. [​IMG]
     
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    Actually caring about folks would involve providing information about the pros of vaccinations and honest evaluations of their risk and not just a whole lot of exaggerated and misleading cons to scare them from something that may be truly beneficial.
     
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    Search "Genocide vaccination" why vaccinations are forced on humanity by the Medical Mafia. One example of the search:

    http://www.whale.to/b/genocide_vax_q.html

    Aids began from small pox vaccinations tainted with Aids in Africa and Brazil, hepatitis vaccinations tainted with Aids was given to homosexuals in New York, Chicago and San Fransico in the "70s.

    SARS, Westnile virus and the Avian flu probably were created in a lab. Dieases jumping from animals to man is done in the lab by man.
     
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    More people are killed and horribly injured by automobiles than by vaccines. Are we asked to take the logical step of refusing to drive?
     
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    If you want to play Russian roulette, be my guest, I won't even take the flue shot.

    Two reasons for vaccinations:

    The billions of dollars of profit that are
    generated to the drug companies that produce these vaccines.

    Genocide.
     
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    Good news, vaccination 100% effective against two virus strains of cervical cancer reported on msnbc.
    Most cancers are caused by bacteria.
     
  20. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Can you provide the statistics to back this up?

    Why do you feel they are exaggerated and misleading cons?

    Do you really expect to get an honest evaluation from the institutions that have a direct vested interest in the production and sale of vaccines?

    Have you read the United Nations thoughts on population control. Henry Kissenger. National Security Study Memorandum 200 I believe it is. Most interesting read.

    FRONT ROYAL, VA, will hold a press conference this Thursday-December 9, 2004, at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., beginning at 9:30 a.m. ET-to release Kissinger Report 2004: A Retrospective on NSSM-200.

    HLI officials and leaders from several of the 13 targeted nations will expose how National Security Study Memorandum 200-primarily authored by then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger-systematically instituted population control programs in the name of national security to gain unimpeded access to these countries' natural resources. The plan called for collusion among the U.S. government, the United Nations and non-governmental organizations like International Planned Parenthood Federation.

    According to NSSM-200: "Throughout the implementation of the [population control] process, we have to make sure to hide our tracks and disguise our programs as altruistic . . . hiding the fact that we want access to their natural resources."

    "Americans will be shocked to learn how billions of their tax dollars have been wasted on programs specifically intended to violate the most basic human rights," said Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer, president of HLI. "This Friday marks the 30th anniversary of NSSM-200 and there can be no mistaking the devastation and havoc it has wreaked upon these unsuspecting nations."

    SOURCE


    Full Text Of Report Here

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