Saw this in another thread, but the thread is closed: At the risk of starting another thread that's only going to go in circles, please allow me to state the obvious: All three of those references are talking about the same thing. One of them talks about it from third person (relates a story). One of them talks to a certain group of people. And the third talks to a different group of people. So if one writer tells one group of people one thing, and then tells another group of people the same thing in a different way, isn't there a term, or a phrase for that? Oh, yeah: It's called "knowing your audience." So in other words, just like Revelations tells us about seven different kinds of churches, it would seem that Paul is telling one type of church one thing, and another type of church the same thing, but in a way they would better understand it. I think people are trying to make distinctions where there are none. Okay, got that off my chest. Feel free to flame me, or close the thread.