Become one flesh

I'm about to head to bed and don't want to be accused of a hit and run... but I disagree Marcia.

The scripture says...

Mark 10:3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

 

There are many instances where Jesus reaffirmed the original intent of God as He does here, but this does not mean that what was given in the OT was not from God. Another example is the "eye for an eye" law/regulation.

Are we saying Deut 19 is not from God either?

Once again, I challenge those who say the divorce decree in Deut 24 was not from God but from Moses to tell us which laws, then, in Deut 24 19, and in Deut itself, came from God and which came from Moses only?

 

Christ does give an exclusion in the following verse:

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

 

I owe Larry an apology

I did say hope your partner bites it
and while it was a little harsh - it was taken out of context - that makes it sounds extremely cruel and even a personal attack - I never said that directly

Context Larry context
In your post on page 4, from October 19, 2004 12:59 AM, you said Scripture clearly states that divorced stay divorced or reconcile or hope their partner bites it. You may have forgotten you said it, but you did. You were out of line.

It looked like you read the whole post but then you focussed on one part - DEATH is the only breaker of the union that God makes - there is not a nice way to say wait until your ex dies so that you are free to remarry.

So again I apologize for my poor choice of words - but I stand by the meaning and for that I will not apologize - Death is the only thing that abrogates the marital union.

 

Some interpret that word "fornication" (porneia) to mean that the only justification for divorce is not adultery, but cases where the couple finds out they are biologically related. I don't agree with that.

Don't the other verses exclude any exception allowing divorce?

 

I was just doing a quick glance through again using the phrase put away - I use Online Bible

and I came across certain verses that I thought interesting

Lev 21:7,13-14
similar
Eze 44:22

Are we not a royal priesthood?

Just a thought

 

Please note in Mark 10 that it's the Pharisees who say, "Moses permitted," not Jesus. That little fact was not noted by you.

In Mk 7.10, Jesus says this:

So does this mean one of the commandments was Moses' idea? But yet we have Jesus saying, "Moses said."

I am still waiting for you to point in Deut. which laws are from God and which were ones Moses made up himself. Can you show me which were from Moses even though all these string of laws begin with this statement in Deut 12.1:

 

You realize, don't you, that the 1611 meaning of "suffer" is "to permit" or "to allow".

 

Thanks for being infantile and not answering my sincere question.

 

POR, I am still waiting for you to decipher which laws and commandments from Deut. 12 through 24 are from God and which are ones Moses thought up, since Deut 12.1 clearly states that ALL the following commandments are from the Lord. These continue in a string of statements through 24, which is the chapter giving the divorce decrees.

Please start with 12.1 and go through 24 and enligthen us as to which one of those commandments are not from God.

 

No, refusing to answer my question is infantile. I asked a sincere question, and you reply with complete insincerity in an infantile spirit. Answer my question.

You realize, don't you, that the 1611 meaning of "suffer" is "to permit" or "to allow".

 

POR says: Jesus did try much to straighten Moses out, including Moses' allowance for hardness of heart to over-ride the very thing God institued and calls "Holy ", (Uh, Holy Matrimony, that is), so anything Moses said that goes against what God ordained , or that follows the order of the Aaronic preisthood, well need i say more?

Sounds to me like you're saying your kjVERSION contradicts itself, or that God contradicts himself.....Can't have it both ways, Ralph. You say the kjVERSION is the perfectly preserved WOG, yet you pretty much say Jesus had to set Moses straight. Contradiction, friend. It's just not gonna wash and further proves the falseness of the doctrine of kjVERSION onlyism and how other doctrines are twisted to fit the position instead of the positions twisted to fit the doctrine.

 

Also, POR, Jesus did permit divorce. I've given the reference numerous times. Seems you like to avoid that.