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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Ps104_33, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    Yes, I do not serve a fattening dessert to someone who was formerly obese. I will serve fruit with an angel food cake.

    The disposition to alcoholism can be genetically passed on. As can obesity. I'm glad that alcohol holds no mystical hold on you - but it does to many, many people, including the born again believer. I'm sorry that you disagree with the facts.
     
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    We all know...hopefully...that the scriptures do not adress the drinking of Alcholic beverages in moderation. (A beer after cutting the grass, glass of wine with dinner, etc)

    And Jesus did indeed turn water into alchoholic wine for those at that wedding feast.

    It is drinnking to excess...drunkeness...that the scriptures speak strongly of.

    Personally, I have not had a drink of an alcholic beverage since I was born again decades ago.

    Not because I am worried about what might happen if I took one sip, because I'm not worried about that at all.


    I simply have had my desire for alchoholic beverages completely taken away since that day.

    Praise God!
     
  3. rjprince

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    Overeating and gluttony? Now you guys are really meddling! Besides if you sit on the floor when you eat it, isn't it therefore "low-fat"? :laugh:

    Annsni, I applaud both your consistency and your attitude. :thumbsup:

    That is one of the reasons that we do not use wine at Lord's Supper.
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    alcoholism has nothing to do with genetics.It is only about poor decisions and inappropriate behavior.
     
  5. tinytim

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    Do you know that 1/16 of an angel food cake.. with a 1/2 cup sliced strawberries, and no sugar strawberry glaze, and no fat whip cream is less than 2 points on the weight watchers points plan...

    If you slice the strawberries as thin as you can, it really seems like a lot.

    This is my favorite low fat diet dessert...

    Of course if you add Chocolate Liquor... ..

    Nah... won't go there~!

    BTW.. I have lost 25 to 30 pounds.. (depends on the time of day I weigh myself)... since Christmas!

    By doing this...
    2 days of only consuming 800-1000 calories... and exercising for for 30 minutes on an exercise bike...
    On the 3rd day.. consume around 2000-2500 calories.. and no special exercise...

    Then back to the 2 days of dieting...

    So I have learned how to get as much food as I can while still staying around 800 calories....
    Mixed veggies are my friend.. no fat milk... special K cereal for breakfast... NO starchy foods....

    I can even eat a well balanced nutritional meal if I plan the calories right.
    I will eat around noon.. about 250 calories.. then dinner.. .400 calories.. and a bowl of cereal at night... about 150 calories.. (I never was a breakfast eater.. unless I go to Cracker Barrel.. then I do that on the 3rd day!!! lol)
    I do this for 2 days and then a break...

    This is the combination I have been using... and it is working!
    The first week my muscles started aching, because they were burning the fat around them.. but after that the ache disappeared.

    It is amazing to step on the scale every few days and see 5 pounds melt away.
    I figured out (from googling websites that give this info) that I normally burn 3500 -5000 calories a day... Just average living.. no special exercise...
    And it takes a deficit of 3500 calories to lose a pound...
    So.. every day I burn 5000 calories and only take in 1000.. thats over a pound I lose!

    OK... enough rambling on...
     
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    The behavior might be passed to generations. If you watch mom and dad doing it growing up you believe that's life so you are more likely to repeat the behavior yourself.
     
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    Agreed. That's why I model drinking in moderation in front of my children.
     
  8. annsni

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    Tim - That's fantastic!!! Keep up the good work!
     
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    Welch's is much different than grape juice in taste and content.
     
  11. LeBuick

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    I love beer and especially love good Kentucky bourbon; just the thought of sipping a couple fingers of Jack Daniels makes my jaw ache.

    That's why I no longer drink - I give up something I love everyday for the Lord.

    Least I can do for him.

    God bless
     
  13. Allan

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    That is both a blessing and humbling. Thank you for that.
     
  14. Revmitchell

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    As a former alcoholic I have read study after study. What you have posted is more surveying that is speculative at best. The best they can say is "linked". It is poor surveying and not substantial. Alcohol and drug treatment is a multi-billion dollar industry. If it is recognized for what it is a personal choice and nothing else then that industry gets destroyed.
     
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    Thank you brother.

    It isn't much considering that I owe him a life.

    oh Amazing Grace, mighty Love that Lifted me

    God bless your family too
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Matthew 15:11
    Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
     
  18. Martin Luther

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    My mentor was an alcoholic, and yet he still drinks wine. Once he was born again he found the source of real strength.
     
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    Exactly! It amazes me how the church has let modern day psychology teach us more about addiction than the the Word of God.
     
  20. annsni

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    God chooses to heal some of what they were before they were saved - and some will continue to struggle. I know that we have a man in church who continues to struggle with alcohol and he's a great godly man - who works with the recovery ministry. He's been sober for over 20 years - yet he still struggles with it. He can identify with those he's ministering to in a way very differently than someone who has been delivered of the alcoholism drive. Is he any less saved? No. Any less healed? No. But God has used him in a MIGHTY way through his struggle.
     
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