Belief in the Five???

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  1. agedman

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    This is a thread to express what you agree and do not agree about these five statements.



    Do you hold that the Scripture alone is the final authority of the believer, or are there other writings that should be included?


    Do you hold that a sinner is saved by faith without regard to any human condition, status, merit, or ability?​


    Do you hold that salvation is granted to the sinner without regard to any work or purchase done by the sinner but totally upon the will and favor of God?​


    Do you hold that salvation is solely based upon the Christ and that no sinner can make claim of salvation or heavenly reward apart from Christ? ​


    Do you hold that salvation and the believer's life is to be in all matters of conduct and living a declaration of God's glory - that no person should or has the right to be puffed up them self or others in any matter of pride or station?​
     
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    I agree with all 5. Do I win a prize? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Do you hold that the Scripture alone is the final authority of the believer, or are there other writings that should be included?

    Scripture only.
    Do you hold that a sinner is saved by faith without regard to any human condition, status, merit, or ability?


    No. I believe we are saved by grace through faith with no regard to human condition, status, merit, or ability.
    Do you hold that salvation is granted to the sinner without regard to any work or purchase done by the sinner but totally upon the will and favor of God?


    It is without works of righteousness, but the person must come to repentance and faith.
    Do you hold that salvation is solely based upon the Christ and that no sinner can make claim of salvation or heavenly reward apart from Christ?


    Salvation is offered to man solely on the bases of the work of Christ on the cross. We can only be saved through Him and no other.
    Do you hold that salvation and the believer's life is to be in all matters of conduct and living a declaration of God's glory - that no person should or has the right to be puffed up them self or others in any matter of pride or station?


    Yes, That would be the ideal.
     
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    Yes, Scripture alone as final authority.


    No. We are not saved by faith, but by grace.

    Yes, Gods choosing is unconditional and umerited.

    Yes, salvation is based solely upon Him and His mercy, choosing, purpose, grace.


    Yes, we are to do all things for His glory.

    So, I agree with 4. :)
     
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    Think most of us would agree with most of the points that you have listed here, except that the non cals arms if honest witht heir theology, cannot agree that God himself determines who gets saved!
     
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    Ok. Number 2 was a trick question. :)

    We are saved by grace through faith. I was primarily reading the "without merit" part.
     
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    Was that one of the five questions?? :rolleyes:
     
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    You got a B, I got an A+. :laugh:
     
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    That isn't fair, I want pizza! :tear: :laugh:
     
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    Breatttthhhhhhhh girl, you're turning blue!!!!
     
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    Ok oldman.......er....agedman...what is the purpose of this exercise?

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    I have been found out so early!!! You all are TOO smart!!!

    It is true that the 2nd question is what the typical non-cal believer would consider accurate.

    However, if the Calvinistic thinking person considers faith that professes salvation (saving faith) as the same faith that Paul states (the faith that is built upon), and what Peter said (the faith that needs additions applied) then it follows that the unmerited favor of God (definition of grace) does measure and instal the faith into the sinner is saving faith or salvation. For it is clear that the mere human generated faith is not ability given to express substance out of mere hope, nor do they place evidence in what they cannot see as verifiable. That humanistic faith is as the rest of the man - fallen.

    Therefore, to both the calvinistic and non-calvinistic thinking all five statements could be held as true.
     
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    I believe in the 5 solas too.
     
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    :thumbs: I agree.
     
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    Ditto on agreement to "the five", at first I thought you were going to be referencing "the five" on Fox News. :)
     
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    yuuuuup. Scriptures alone.


    We are saved by grace through faith. Faith justifies, but grace is what saves anyone.

    It first takes faith-which God blesses the believer to have-and then grace is applied.


    Zactly.


    Zactly. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     

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