There seems to be a private war going on over on the thread I started on Belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, so I thought I would start another one to develop the theme. I'd like to move on by suggesting that to believe in closely associated with action- doing something- and with obedience. Gen. 12:1. 'The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and you father's household and go to the land that I will show you."' There follow various promises concerning Abraham. In Hebrews 11:8 we read, 'By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive......' How would it have been if Abraham had said to himself, "I really believe that God wants me to leave Ur and go out into the wilderness. I really believe all the promises that He's made to me," and then stayed exactly where he was? What sort of faith would that have been? He believed, he obeyed and he acted. Almost all of the heroes of faith in Heb. 11 are people who went out and did something. If I were to announce on this board that all next week, Walmart are selling $10 bills for a dime each, and tell you, "Grab a load of dimes and hurry down to Walmart on Monday morning," what would be the evidence that you believe me? Surely it would be if you turned up at Walmart with a barrow-load of dime coins? Your belief in what I said would have been proved by your obedience in following my advice, and your action in changing your life savings into dimes. Alas, your faith would be sorely misplaced, but I hope you get the point. Hence we read in Rom. 16:26 of 'the obedience of (or 'to the') faith.' Now we read in Heb. 3:19, concerning the Israelites failure to enter the promised land that 'They could not enter in because of unbelief.' What does this mean? It means surely that these Israelites missed Caanan because of their failure to appropriate the promise of God.(Exod. 3:16-17). But there is more to it than that. In Deut. 1:26, Moses declares, "Nevertheless, you would not go up, but rebelled against the command of the LORD your God." So here we have a failure to believe, closely associated with disobedience and a lack of action. It is worth noting that the Greek word apeitheia is translated 'unbelief' in Heb. 4:6, and 'disobedience' in Eph. 2:2 & 5:6. Likewise the verb form apeitheo is translated 'did not believe' in Heb. 11:31, and 'do not obey' in 1 Peter 3:1; 4:17. Therefore it is quite wrong to suggest that one can be a 'believer' without a full-hearted (though not perfect in this life) obedience to God's word. "Why do you call Me, Lord, Lord, and not do what I say?"