Best person in 2008

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  1. saturneptune

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    Who do you admire enough, besides the ones running, to receive the Democratic or Republican nomination, if it were up to you?

    It could be a business leader, an honest politician, or some other type of leader. It would not have to be a particular political view, but someone with leadership ability, honesty, and a heart for serving the American people. Out of 300 million Americans, there has to be two finalists that are talented.
     
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    That is a good question, but I have to think about it. You have to look long and hard in Washington for an honest person. The only people I fully trust are my parents, my brothers and sister and my wife and children and they dont want the job. When Bush ran in the primaries in the first election I didnt support him. I was a Steve Forbes supporter. I still like him. As far as politicians go he would be my GOP choice. Democrat? Not many. Maybe Lieberman. He seems to be the only one with an understanding of the Islamic mentality.
     
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    I'm with you on both of those. I didn't support GWB in the 2000 primary (voted for Keyes even after the nomination had been won), but i did support him in 00 and 04.
    If i had a choice of who i would pull out of the blue though on the GOP side for my choice i would say JC Watts even though i know he probably has no goal of the White House.

    On the DNC, Lieberman is about it for me.
     
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    Both Forbes and Watts are excellent responses. Both beat the present announced crowd.

    I think former Vice President Quayle never got a fair shake as portrayed by the media as something less than bright. My impression was that he was honest, conservative, and never got a chance to prove his leadership skills.

    Lieberman is the only one that comes close on the other side. Bobby, in case you forgot, you could drag Carter back since he never served a second term.[​IMG]
     
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    All i can say to that is: :tonofbricks:
    The bricks would be less painful.
     
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    I'd like Newt Gingrich to emerge as the GOP's elder statesman, to again define the parties role, and renergize the base, if not run for President. The Republican party is twisting in the Democrat wind now.

    I was all for Allen Keyes, till he self destructed over his racism.
     
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    What does everyone think of Dan Quayle? Unelectable?
     
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    He appears to be unelectable: why I don't know. I don't think he was ever given a fair chance to define himself.
     
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    Of course he wasn't. His story is a sad one, never given a chance by conservatives or liberals, he was the comic relief from the White House. I never heard anything bad about him, besides stupid, irrelevant jokes.
     
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    One word, Saggy!
     
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    Quayle was widely regarded as being intelligent and credited for being savvy enough to make a horse-race of the '92 presidential race. He also beat Gore in a debate - a feat that not too many can lay claim to.

    The whole misspelled word thing - people forget that (1) the Teacher misspelled the word, too, on the card, and (2) the media outlets reported various spellings in their coverage. The things we choose to care about. :BangHead:
     
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    I remember this incident. It is truly sad when things like this overshadow a person's true qualifications. I'm not saying I would support Quayle, but he did not get a fair shake, in my opinion.
     
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    George Allen: Wasn't he the one that got Quailized by the Macaca statement? I had high hopes for him, and could easily entertain his re-entry.
     
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    Condoleezza Rice. :)
     
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    Sorry to bring you an inconvenient truth:



    Al Gore


     
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    I thought I was the only person who actually did that. Glad to find out there was one more.

    However, as to a few with some small bit of notoriety - Republican Representative J. C. Watts and Democratic Senator Sam Nunn would be at or near the top of the list.

    I also tend to think Republican Governors, Haley Barbour of MS, George Pataki of NY, and 'Jeb' Bush of FL, and Democrat Governor Bill Richardson of NM (although I do know he is currently running for President, but still want to put him in the 'can do' column, here) have shown some fair ability to actually 'govern' and 'lead' as opposed to merely 'legislate' what others should do, unlike, say, the Governor of my own state, KY.

    Among others, I would probably include Democrat Senator Zell Miller of GA., Republican Senators Lamar Alexander of TN and Orrin Hatch of UT (who is probably really too old to be seriously considered, as are a couple of the others) and Independent Democrat Senator Joe Lieberman of CT.

    I know I have not covered all good individuals, and there may be some far better qualified and able than these I have mentioned, but I don't see too many that stand head and shoulders above the crowd, with the possible exception of Republican Senator Fred Thompson (also a current candidate), who stands 6' 6'' tall, :laugh: whom I just had to include on the list, just to work in my cheap chuckle, after spouting the adage.

    That is not to say I agree with all things done or supported by any or all of them, but unfortunately, I do not see an overwhelmingly long list of individuals to pick from.

    [Edited to add-] As the Language Cop, I am fully aware one should never properly end a sentence with a 'dangling' preposition. However, my above sentence is constructed in the manner of the usual way most of us speak. And concerning objections to this usage, such objections, in the manner of what the late Sir Winston Churchill once said, "are drivel of the sort, with which the up I will not put!" :laugh: :laugh:

    Ed
     
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    In fact, neither Vice-President Dan Quayle, nor the teacher, "misspelled" the word "potato" as "potatoe", as both are acceptable dictionary spellings (which was shown, at the time, BTW, and as the "media outlets" correctly reported, for a change, and you pointed out), although granted, "potato" is the much more commonly used spelling. "Potatoe" is now almost universally considered to be an archaic spelling, but that alone does not, in any way, make it "misspelled".

    Which is correct for what I put on my hamburger and 'freedom' fries? Is it tomato "catsup"? Or is it tomato "ketchup"?

    I actually have a bottle of each in my home, and would like to know which one is actually 'The Real Thing®', for I don't think Coke® works very well, as a condiment.

    'Cause it makes my fries and hamburger bun way too soggy! :laugh: :laugh:

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    If it were possible, how it would be fascinating to bring all the Founding Fathers back to observe these clown debates that have been going on for over a year. Imagine Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, Hancock, and the rest, watching this. Imagine them watching the present government in action. We need someone this group of men would be proud to vote for.
     
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    // ... Republican Representative J. C. Watts ... //

    He was my Representative when my son was an
    early teen.

    1. My(then) teen-age son and I had a lots of fun with:

    "What's - the name of our Represenative?"
    "Yes, of course, 'Watts' is the name of our Representative"

    2. though we had no term limit laws in Oklahoma,
    J.C.Watts was one of the few who promised to
    self-term-limit and DID limit his turm.

    3. Watts hardly never charged much for speaking to the youth
    at church. His message to teens was: If you will be responsible for
    your own behavior - you can succeed.

    //I am fully aware one should never properly end a sentence
    with a 'dangling' preposition.//

    One is not a seasoned English speaker/writer if one cannot
    find a preposition to dangle a sentence with.

    'preposition' - isn't that the past tense of 'proposition'?
     
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    I ain't hardly never heared it said that'a way. :thumbs:
     

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