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Bible inerrancy is well supported

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by kendemyer, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. kendemyer

    kendemyer New Member

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    Re: The Dr. Rimmer Inerrancy Trial mentioned earlier.

    Corporately the antagonist of Christianity has over 1,700 years to sift through the Bible in order to find any factual errors or contradictions. The Rimmer trial shows the weakness of their position. I believe rightly does the Bible say: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise....Where is the wise man?... Where is the scribe? Where is the debator of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?...The grass withers. The flower fades but the Word of God abides forever."
     
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    Dear Readers:

    A gentleman recently emailed me from this forum because he wanted to believe in Bible inerrancy and was seeking additional information.

    Here is some additional information for others who may wish it:

    BIBLE PROPHECY: NOTHING COMPARES

    No book or person has ever remotely compared to the Bible in terms of foretelling the future in terms of specificity, numbers of prophecies, or accuracy of prophecy. We will take a look at non-Bible pyschics and mediums first and then show the amazing accuracy of Bible prophets (a true prophet is correct 100% of the time).


    BIBLE PROPHETS VERSUS NON-BIBLE MEDIUMS/PSYCHICS

    Brookside Church in Ohio states the following regarding the Bible's laws regarding prophets and the accuracy of modern day psychics as reported by a recent study:

    "A true prophet is correct 100% of the time. A test of a prophet was whether they prophesied an event that did not come to pass. Prophets whose predictions failed to come to pass were stoned. People would think twice before revealing any kind of prophecy. Yet the Bible contains more prophecy about Jesus than any other book on any other founder of ancient religion.

    Today there are people who claim to have psychic power. In 1975, The People's Almanac did a study of 25 of the best psychics. Out of 72 predictions, 66 (92%) were totally wrong. The remaining 8% could be explained away."

    Taken from the following website: http://www.brooksidechurch.com/etw/jc7.htm


    Norman Geisler on Nostradomus:

    http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/theo...ry/TD1001W4.htm


    Article that discusses Jeanne Dixon and Nostradomus:

    http://www.inplainsite.org/html/nostradamu...ward__vanp.html


    GENERAL ARTICLE: PROPHECY AS A DEFENSE OF THE BIBLE

    http://www.equip.org/free/DA151.htm


    TYRE AND JERUSALEM IN PROPHECY

    http://custance.org/old/hidden/3ch3.html


    SOME PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE

    http://www.100prophecies.org/default.htm]

    http://www.christadelphian.org.uk/booklets/bprop1.html]


    MESSIANIC PROPHECY FULFILLED IN JESUS

    http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
     
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    kendemyer New Member

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    Here is some other information that corroborates the Bible in terms of accurancy:

    A DISCUSSION OF BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGY


    SOME QUOTES OF PROMINENT BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND OTHERS


    "It may be stated categorically that no archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archaeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical description has often led to amazing discoveries."

    Dr. Nelson Glueck, reknowned Jewish archeologist. (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


    "Archaeology has confirmed countless passages which have been rejected by critics as unhistorical or contradictory to known facts......Yet archaeological discoveries have shown that these critical charges.....are wrong and that the Bible is trustworthy in the very statements which have been set aside as untrustworthy.....We do not know of any cases where the Bible has been proved wrong."

    Dr. Joseph P. Free. (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


    "The reader may rest assured that nothing has been found [by archaeologists] to disturb a reasonable faith, and nothing has been discovered which can disprove a single theological doctrine. We no longer trouble ourselves with attempts to 'harmonize' religion and science, or to 'prove' the Bible. The Bible can stand for itself."

    Dr. William F. Albright, eminent archeologist who confired the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls following their discovery (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html)


    "There can be no doubt that archaeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of Old Testament tradition."

    Dr. William F. Albright (taken from: http://www.gospeloutreach.net/bible.html )


    "On the whole, however, archaeological work has unquestionably strengthened confidence in the reliability of the Scriptural record. More than one archaeologist has found his respect for the Bible increased by the experience of excavation in Palestine....Archaeology has in many cases refuted the views of modern critics. It has shown, in a number of instances, that these views rest on false assumptions and unreal, artificial schemes of historical development. This is a real contribution and not to be minimized."

    Millar Burrows, Professor of Archaeology at Yale University (taken from: http://www.greatcom.org/resources/know_why...07/default.htm)


    "It is therefore legitimate to say that, in respect of that part of the Old Testament against which the disintegrating criticism of the last half of the nineteenth century was chiefly directed, the evidence of archaeology has been to reestablish its authority and likewise to augment its value by rendering it more intelligible through a fuller knowledge of its background and setting. Archaeology has not yet said its last word, but the results already achieved confirm what faith would suggest – that the Bible can do nothing but gain from an increase in knowledge...
    It is therefore legitimate to say that, in respect of that part of the Old Testament against which the disintegrating criticism of the last half of the nineteenth century was chiefly directed, the evidence of archaeology has been to reestablish its authority and likewise to augment its value by rendering it more intelligible through a fuller knowledge of its background and setting. Archaeology has not yet said its last word, but the results already achieved confirm what faith would suggest – that the Bible can do nothing but gain from an increase in knowledge."

    Sir Frederic Kenyon, a former director of the British Museum (taken from http://www.greatcom.org/resources/know_why...07/default.htm)


    "I set out to look for truth on the borderland where Greece and Asia meet, and found it there. You may press the words of Luke in a degree beyond any other historian's and they stand the keenest scrutiny and the hardest treatment."

    Sir William Ramsey, eminent archaeologists who changed his mind regarding Luke after extensive study (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


    Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of facts trustworthy; he is possessed of the true historic sense...In short this author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians."

    Sir William Ramsey, archaeologist (taken from: http://godisforus.com/information/bible/ev...archaeology.htm )


    "In every instance where the findings of archaeology pertain to the Biblical record, the archaeological evidence confirms, sometimes in detailed fashion, the historical accuracy of Scripture. In those instances where the archaeological findings seem to be at variance with the Bible, the discrepancy lies with the archaeological evidence, i.e., improper interpretation, lack of evidence, etc. -- not with the Bible."

    Dr. Bryant C. Wood, archaeologist, Associates for Biblical Research (taken from:http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


    "Through the wealth of data uncovered by historical and archaeological research, we are able to measure the Bible's historical accuracy. In every case where its claims can thus be tested, the Bible proves to be accurate and reliable."

    Dr. Jack Cottrell (taken from: http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html )


    Finally, The reknowned archaeologist Millar Burrow of Yale states, "The excessive skepticism of many liberal theologians stems not from a careful evaluation of the available data, but from an enormous predisposition against the supernatural."
    (taken from: http://godisforus.com/information/bible/ev...rchaeology.htm)


    ARCHAEOLOGY CAN CORROBORATE BUT NOT PROVE THE BIBLE

    See this Jewish site: http://ohr.edu/special/books/gott/truth-5.htm

    (I am a Christian but I felt as though this was a good article)


    EXAMPLES OF BIBLE ARCHAEOLOGY


    http://www.christiananswers.net/archaeology/home.html

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr1998/r&r9806a.htm

    http://www.theexaminer.org/volume5/number3/bible.htm


    LIMITATIONS OF ARCHAEOLOGY

    While archaeology is of great help to our understanding the Bible, the biblical evidence in the text must be given priority over the archaeological evidence from the field. The reason for this is the inherent limitations of archaeology. The primary limitation of archaeology is the extremely fragmentary nature of the archaeological evidence. Only a fraction of what is made or what is written survives. Most of the great Near Eastern archives were destroyed in antiquity through wars, looters, natural disasters or the ravages of time. To this we must add the limitation that less than 2% of sites in Israel have been excavated and hundreds more will never be excavated due to lack of access or resources and destruction through building projects, military maneuvers, and pillaging by Bedouins. Even when this small percentage of sites are excavated, only a fraction of the site is actually examined, and then only a percentage of what is excavated is ever published. Of the 500,000 cuneiform texts that are known to have been discovered over the past 100 years, only 10% have ever been published.

    (this was taken from: http://www.imja.com/Archeology.html )


    ARCHAEOLOGY CONTROVERSIES

    Most of the controversies in Bible archaelogy has to do with dating. I personally, think this is now the weakest link in archaeology.

    Here is a website that discusses this:

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/rr1993/r&r9311a.htm
     
  4. kendemyer

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    Here is some information in regards to science and the Bible since this also enters the Bible inerrancy discussion:

    DIRECTORY OF CREATIONIST SITES AND ARGUMENTS


    MAIN CREATIONIST SITES

    http://www.answersingenesis.org

    http://www.icr.org

    http://www.discovery.org/csc/

    http://www.creationism.org


    WHO WINS THE CREATIONIST/EVOLUTIONIST DEBATES?

    http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArch...ce/SC1W1200.pdf.


    LARGE DIRECTORY OF CREATIONIST SITES

    http://members.aol.com/dwr51055/Creation.html


    EXCELLENT ESSAYS ON CREATIONISM

    General essays: www.apologetics.org

    Failures of the Macroevolutionary Model: http://www.probe.org/docs/5crises.html

    Origin of life essay: http://www.macrodevelopment.org/library/meyer.html


    THE FOSSIL RECORD SUPPORTS CREATIONISM

    Completeness of the fossil record:

    "There are a hundred million fossils, all catalogued and identified, in museums around the world."—*Porter Kier, quoted in New Scientist, January 15, 1981, p. 129.

    "Now, after over 120 years of the most extensive and painstaking geological exploration of every continent and ocean bottom, the picture is infinitely more vivid and complete than it was in 1859. Formations have been discovered containing hundreds of billions of fossils and our museums now are filled with over 100 million fossils of 250,000 different species. The availability of this profusion of hard scientific data should permit objective investigators to determine if Darwin was on the right track."—Luther D. Sunderland, Darwin's Enigma (1988), p. 9 [italics ours].


    Some specific examples of the fossil record:

    "...I still think that to the unprejudiced, the fossil record of plants is in favour of special creation." - E.J.H. Corner, Prof of Botany, Cambridge University, England. Evolution in Contemporary Botanical Thought, Quadrangle Books, p. 97

    "Fossil remains, however, give no information on the origin of the vertebrates." —*Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 7, p. 587 (1976 edition, Macropaedia).

    "No fossil of any such birdlike reptile has yet been found." —* World Book Encyclopedia, Vol. 2, p. 291 (1982 edition). (regarding reptiles becoming birds)

    "The fossil record does not give any information on the origin of insects." —*Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 7, p. 585 (1978 edition; Macropaedia).

    "Modern apes, for instance, seem to have sprung out of nowhere. They have no yesterday, no fossil record. And the true origin of modern humans - of upright, naked, tool-making, big-brained beings - is, if we are to be honest with ourselves, an equally mysterious matter." - Dr. Lyall Watson, Anthropologist. 'The water people'. Science Digest, vol. 90, May 1982, p. 44.

    "No fossil or other physical evidence directly connects man to ape." —*John Gliedman, "Miracle Mutations," Science Digest, February 1982, p. 90.

    "Even this relatively recent history [of evolution from apes to man] is shot through with uncertainties; authorities are often at odds, both about fundamentals and about details." —*Mankind Evolving, p. 168.

    To see more relevant quotes regarding the fossils of other kinds of plants/creatures please see this link: http://evolution-facts.org/a17c.htm


    An essay: The Fruitless Search for the Missing Link by Jerry Bergman

    http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/BMissingLink...essSearch49.htm


    Are there any transitional fossils?

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/3076.asp

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/re1/chapter3.asp


    QUOTES FROM SCIENTISTS AND OTHERS

    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7547/cequotes.html

    http://www.evolutionisdead.com/quotes.php

    http://www.nwcreation.net/quotes.html


    YOUNG EARTH ARGUMENTS

    http://www.age-of-earth.com/

    http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/youngearth.html

    http://www.godandscience.org/youngearth/youngearth.html

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/2001/dd-01-16.htm


    THE UNIVERSE IS NOT ETERNAL

    http://www.ldolphin.org/studynotes/evidence.htm

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/defdocs/2001/dd-01-17.htm

    http://www.godandscience.org/slideshow/sld010.html


    BIG BANG THEORY PROBLEMS AND CRITICISMS

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr2003/r&r0305ad3.htm

    http://www.origin-of-the-universe.com/Orig...he-Universe.htm

    http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-216.htm

    http://www.christiancourier.com/feature/december99.htm

    http://www.apologeticspress.org/docsdis/2001/dc-01-04.htm


    DOES THE BIBLE TEACH A EXPANDING UNIVERSE (MAYBE)

    http://www.ldolphin.org/staticu.html


    ONLINE CREATIONISM BOOK (UNIQUE)

    http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ441.html


    FALL OF MAN AND CREATION

    http://www.ldolphin.org/Ruin.html


    OTHER RESOURCES

    http://www.arn.org (Creationism resources, bulletin board, etc)

    http://members.aol.com/dwr51055/Creation.html (Intelligent design)


    HAVE ANY BIBLE QUESTIONS?

    Please see the user friendly resource below:

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/topic18.html
     
  5. kendemyer

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    I have updated my answers to Bible questions resources for those who are interested. I better organized the material and offered more resources.

    Here is the updated information:

    ANSWERS TO YOUR BIBLE QUESTIONS AND BIBLE INERRANCY


    ANSWERS TO BIBLE QUESTIONS. USER FRIENDLY RESOURCES.


    http://www.inerrancy.org/

    http://www.tektonics.org/index2.html ( main URL is www.tektonics.org )

    http://www.christian-thinktank.com

    http://www.christiananswers.net (general questions)

    http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/rtb/ (general questions)

    http://www.blueletterbible.org (excellent free online commentaries)

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/topic28.html (creationism sites)


    ADVANCED GOOGLE TIPS SO YOU CAN FIND BIBLE ANSWERS NOW!

    http://www.google.com (search engine)

    http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en (advanced searches)

    http://www.google.com/help/refinesearch.html (advanced help)


    AWESOME BIBLE SITES I FOUND THROUGH WWW.GOOGLE.COM


    NOAH'S ARK:


    Noah's ark seen through the eyes of a nautical engineer:

    http://www.asknoah.org/arkdesign.html


    Historical accounts of Noah's ark sitings:

    http://www.home.earthlink.net/~arktracker/ark/Sightings.html


    Noah's ark, objections answered (local flood etc etc, see link above)

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/noah.asp


    Noah's ark design debate:

    http://www.evcforum.net/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000090.html

    (God is smart enough to tell Noah how to overcome some design issues plus the Chinese seemed to do it).


    Noah's ark, insects not welcome:

    http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/BnoahsArkAndInsects49.htm


    More answers regarding Noah's ark:
    http://www.ldolphin.org/cisflood.html


    JONAH AND THE BIG FISH, IT HAPPENED! BELIEVE IT!

    http://www.adam.com.au/bstett/BJonahDebate.htm

    (I do not think the James Bartley story is true. I fact checked it through www.google.com)


    DEFENSE OF CHRISTIANITY SITES

    http://home.earthlink.net/~gbl111 (VERY comprehensive apologetics)

    http://www.apologetics.com/articles (comprehensive site, great essays)

    http://www.myfortress.org (comprehensive)

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/topic31.html ( Bible prophecy)

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/topic32.html (Bible archaeology)

    (I generally agree with most of the essays written at the above 2 Christian apologetic sites for the most part although two of the essays neglect to mention that the new city of Tyre is not built upon the old one although it is extremely close to it. Some of Pascal's writings are brilliant but I disagree with some points Pascal made. I also believe that the www.myfortress.org misquoted Voltaire's last words [there is conflicting testimony regarding Voltaire's last words] Also, one of the sites is pro Big Bang theory which I do not believe happened. Other than that I like these sites a lot).


    WHAT IS BIBLE INERRANCY (FREE OF ERROR)? SHORT ESSAYS.

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/bible.asp


    A COMMON OBJECTION OF BIBLE INERRANCY

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/topic19.html


    WHERE THE CRITICS OF THE BIBLE OFTEN GO WRONG

    http://www.tektonics.org/calcon.html


    RECOMMENDED AUTHORS AND BOOKS

    MacArthur Study Bible answers a lot of Bible inerrancy issues in its notes (I do not always agree with MacArthur's theology but he is a top notch scholar)

    Dr. Gleason Archer has been called the "apostle of Bible inerrancy". Dr. Geisler has also written some excellent works on this subject. Here is a link to some books by these gentleman:

    http://www.helpmewithbiblestudy.org/20s/t_difficulties.htm


    Also, although it is out of print and you would need to do a search through used book dealers I think the Wycliffe Bible Encyclopedia is a superb reference source that answers Bible questions.


    FOR OTHER PIECES CREATED BY THIS AUTHOR

    Please see this link: http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/forum18.html


    IMPORTANT REQUEST TO READERS

    1. Please do not ask me to argue about Bible inerrrancy. If you have a Bible inerrancy questions please use the Bible questions answered sites I gave above. I hate arguing. It raises my blood pressure and gives me knots in my stomach. I won't do it! LOL

    2. Please do not ask me any Bible questions. I would love to answer all your Bible questions, however, I am self-employed right now my plate is currently full. I think the resources I gave you will enable you to find your own answers. In short, I did not give you a fish but taught you how to fish! God bless your efforts. You can get your Bible questions answered. I am speaking from experience.
     
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    Dear Readers:

    I want to clarify something regarding the site:

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/forum18.html

    I said:

    "My articles have been withdrawn from that site and it is filled with less studied positions which you can see if you click on that site."

    This is of course my personal opinion. I just wanted to clarify that.
     
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    Dear Readers:

    I just wanted to make a further clarification just to make things very clear regarding the Theology postings in the the link I gave above which was:

    http://forums.gatherinhisname.com/forum18.html

    I just believe that the gentleman who wrote the piece "Water baptism is not from God anymore" (Captainchurch) may not have studied the issue with adequate thoroughness. I also realize that his posting was not necessarily the views of the staff or owner or www.gatherinhisname.com I wish to have peace with all men if possible.
     
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    Dear Readers:

    I hope I made myself clear!

    Sincerely,

    Ken
     
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    I added a whole wealth of new information to my essay on Bible inerrancy. I will continue to update this infomation. Please see this link for the new information: http://www.christian-forum.net/index.php?showtopic=199

    I hope this infomation proves helpful for you.

    Sincerely,

    Ken
     
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