"Biblical" Segregation

Scarlett, no problem. Thanks for clearing that up.

I disagree with whoever said that. I always found your blue italics easy to read. This font and color just doen't look right with your name. But hey whatever works for ya.

 

Pipedude,

You have complained repeatedly that WE are wrong for taking issue with the premise of this book, yet you have not once shown ANY EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY. Based on your posts you have accused Pastor Bob of misrepresenting the author, and in short accused him of lying. Until you actually show some evidence to the contrary you should apologize. You may be well schooled in theology and interpretations of this matter, but that does not mean the author of the book was. Show some proof that WE are wrong and that Pastor Bob misunderstood. Frankly I do not think you can, otherwise you would have by now. The book is a cesspool of UNBIBLICAL RACISM! There is no room in ANY GODLY CHURCH for rubbish such as this.

 

As I said in my first post, I cannot comment on the book, as I have not seen it, much less have I read it. So I have no proof at all that Pastor Bob misunderstood. In fact, I think it quite unlikely that he misunderstood. Does that surprise you? It wouldn't surprise you if you could reign your hatred in long enough to read dispassionately.

The lynch mob in this thread is on precisely the same mental and attitudinal level as the Leninist mob described here. You think that you know what's in the book because you know what "those people" are like and how "those people" think and you can condemn the man on that basis. No one may disagree with you or even seem to disagree with you without a violent response. If there is such a thing as bigotry, it is rampant here. If there is such a thing as prejudice, this is a textbook example.

When I try to fill in the blanks and anticipate what that author's position is, I cannot do it. There are too many unknowns. And you cannot, either.

If you want to define an idea and attack that idea, you're on defensible ground. But when you define an idea, attribute it to some Christian brother, and condemn him for it, then you're on ground about as good as the jury in To Kill a Mockingbird.

 

Pipedude. I went back and read every post up to the last one (yours above, post #44) and found that out of the 44 posts, only TWO might possibly considered an attack on the unknown author.

Your dramatic and exaggerated responses are quite comical (see post #'s 23, 26, 37, and 44) with the use of words and phrases like:

And my personal favorite:

A possible two out of 44 posts might be considered for direct name calling. But for some reason it has been magnified in your own mind and equated to burning, executing, lynching, etc.

 

What a ridiculous statement! I would always drag a heretic from his cell, first.

Then :tonofbricks: !

Then you burn 'em at the stake!

How ridiculous can one get, for you don't want to set fire to the building! {sarcasm!}

Ed

 

I disagree with the author's position on racial separation etc.

The conclusion that mixing the so-called "races" is necessary for the antichrist I believe comes from a very mixed up interpretation of Acts 17:26

"And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;"

The antichrist, many believe, will thrive and rise to power on one world government and religion. While nations remain relatively isolated the antichrist could not gain world wide power without slowly warring his way around the world. With a one world government established he just needs to become leader.

Anyway, the proponents of the racial separation view, I think, believe that as God has set the boundaries we are breaking God's boundaries if the "races" mix.

My view is that nations would be wise to keep the soveriegnty whilst benefiting from certain economic and security ties. But "inter-racial" marriage has nothing to do with this verse.

Interestingly, those who speak much of this verse for its "bounderies" say nothing of us all being of one-blood.

Note: I think Ken Ham has a good point about there not really being numerous "races".

 

You would think that many Baptists would actually encourage "interracial" marriages if it would hurry up the coming of the Antichrist! That way, the rapture can happen (if you are pre-trib) and the tribulation can gets itself over with. Then Jesus can return and all will be fine. So the more interracial marriages, the better!

As a white man married to an Asian gal, I have heard a few criticisms from people who should have known better. As I stand with Paul, there are neither jews nor greeks, slaves nor freemen, male or females, for all are one in christ. My wife is not just my wife, she is also my sister in Christ (though many are down on her because in addition to being Asian, she's also Roman Catholic), so I see no barriers or sin in being married to her. Especially when it comes to her excellent cooking skills!

Besides, at the risk of using a rather lame cliche, there is only one race on the earth, and that it is the human race. Genetically, on the DNA level, we are no different from each other. Only environmental factors over the years have led to the differences we have physically. That alone shows no separation of anyone, as far as I can see.

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Frankly Pipedude it takes A LOT to surprise me nowadays. I think you are being overly dramatic, btw. "Reign in my hatred"? I do not hate the man, and I believe I even pointed out he very well may be a "good Christian". All I have ever taken issue with is his theological stance on THIS issue.

:laugh: Do you hear yourself? You are condemning us for the very thing you are doing. Your mindset is "these people always think that those people always think that", as proven by your many references to socialists/communists. As far as I can tell we are talking about ONE person and HIS book, so you are going to have to be more specific and define "those" people for me. Honestly, I doubt you even know what your argument is anymore. You claim you are taking issue with the fact that the author has been personally attacked instead of his book, however, as Gershom pointed out, only two posts have attacked the man. EVERY other post takes issue with the premise of the book, as laid out in the OP, and you still have taken an issue with it. Face it you don't like HOW we are disagreeing with the premise of the book. You would rather we waste our time and lay out point for point, verse for verse why the book is wrong. I believe Scarlett said it best when she said, "I don't have to know how he arrived at this wicked conclusion to know that it is an invalid conclusion". If you want a theological discussion debating the premise of the book then start a new thread in the theology forum, because most of us in this thread don't care to debate the premise theologically, as it is a waste of time and energy.

 

You don't know what he said and you don't know why he said it. And neither do your fellows. But who really cares?

I see that the mourners have all returned to their pews and all who wish to repent and be converted have done so, so I believe my work here is done and I shall end my sermon.

Que continúe el auto de fe!

 

Good observation, IMO.

Ed

 

LOL!!!!

that mongrel grey race is how we all started out in Adam and Eve!

 

I am a bigot!!

Yes it is true I'm a bigot. I have long known this and completely accept the fact. I have no tolerance for the Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and many others including the RCC. I'm not ashamed of this fact, in truth, I believe it is the position a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ should take.

 

What exactly does this have to do with blacks and whites mixing? I understand a believer not accepting or tolerating other faiths, but again that has nothing to do with race, a purely evolutionary and relatively recent term.

 

:laugh: All of the excerpts were ridiculous, but this one takes the cake. "Gray" race? Thats a completely new one, at least to me. I know if you mix black and white paint you end up with gray paint, but with people? Don't know about you but I've never seen any "gray" people, unless of course they were ill....

 

I guess we're just a gray bunch of folks at my place. I've got a "heinz 57" mix of couples (some married adults, others in our youth group are dating):
-Black/white
-Black/asian
-Hispanic/white
-Hispanic/asian
-West Virginian/Alabamian

That last couple is pretty scandalous...:laugh:

20 years ago we would have had several fits thrown over the above combinations (OF COURSE folks would have gotten more worked up over black/white. They always do...they're never bothered by White/Asian as much).

But, we've had several salvations, and several funerals. And now...not a peep.

Even better: We have a young interracial couple that was warmly welcomed by, and they sat beside, an older gentleman that was once one of our biggest bigots. Now, he sees them as a young couple that need to know Jesus, and get in church. Praise God, He's still working on us!

Now that I've looked at my post, I'm gonna rename our church: "The Messiah's Mutts!" :thumbs: :laugh:

 

:laugh: rbell you are too much!! The "Messiah's Mutts", I love it!!! :laugh:

ROFLOL!!!!!

 

"Now why er you talkin' 'bout my ma n pa?"