Biden's comment

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  1. SolaSaint

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    Did everyone hear what Biden said in China? He has to be either the biggest buffoon or immoral leader ever to sit in the Vice Presidents chair.

    How did the majority of Americans vote these two morons(Obama & Biden) into office? Either the voting public is easily swayed or we are as immoral as they are. I feel it's a little of both.
     
  2. exscentric

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    No, can't say that I've heard it, if it is repeatable let us hear it :) Listened to a little of one speech and actually he sounded half way intelligent.
     
  3. Crabtownboy

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    I am not sure why the OP did not carry Biden's statement. You can find it a number of places. Here it is:

    He is right. The one child policy is not sustainable in that one wage earner will not be able to take care of his/her own family and four elderly people.

    I think this is another example of some misinterpreting a person's statement for their own political reasons.
     
  4. Havensdad

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    I do not believe this is the statement he was referring to. And Biden is an absolute moron. When you are a liberal, and even liberals like John Stewart and Bill Maher mock your intelligence, you are DUMB>
     
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    This thread is like a church I once attended where everyone kept their little secrets :)

    I saw a speech of his where he "joked" about keeping some of the thousands of Chinese students that are studying here. He was smart enough to identify it as a joke :)
     
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    Shouldn't you offer a link or something else to back up your rant?
     
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    It is.

    Vice President Joe Biden's office dismissed criticism of his seeming support of China's one-child policy, saying Tuesday that the vice president's recent remarks to a Chinese audience were meant to expose unintended pitfalls of the policy, not give approval to forced abortion.

    The vice president addressed the policy while answering a question about the U.S. budget deficit at a university in Chengdu on Sunday. He was trying to explain how China has a looming entitlement crisis on its hands because its strict enforcement of the one-child-per-family rule has essentially eroded the "safety net" for seniors. Fewer children means fewer people earning money and supporting retirees.

    But in explaining that concept, Biden appeared to condone China's policy.

    "You have no safety net. Your policy has been one which I fully understand -- I'm not second-guessing -- of one child per family," Biden said, according to the official transcript of the event. "The result being that you're in a position where one wage earner will be taking care of four retired people. Not sustainable."

    Conservative groups, and GOP presidential candidates, slammed the vice president for the remark.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...chinas-one-child-policy-speech/#ixzz1VxMiWHfF
     
  8. Bro. Curtis

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    China's policies of forced abortions, forced sterilizations, fines, and other pressures could only be viewed as repugnant, to anyone who claims to fear God. To brush it off as an economic problem, shows just how depraved the left has become.
     
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    I think it's another example of Joe Biden making a political gaffe.
     
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    I believe Biden's comment was a criticism of the one child policy and done in a way that the Chinese would understand and not be offended by but not understood by most Americans. Being subtle is very strong in the Chinese culture. Being blunt is seen as offensive in the Chinese culture and serves to push them away rather than influence them.

    If Biden had said the one child policy is wrong. If he had been blunt the response would have been anger and the Chinese saying, "It is none of your business. It is an internal matter."

    By being subtle he did not cause anger. His comment was heard and probably agreed with. The conversation could continue in a calm way.What indicates this? No criticism from the Chinese.

    Let me give you two examples:

    In the 1980's students began wearing T-shirts that had the words, "I'm tired, leave me along," printed on them. This was seen, and rightly so, by the government as an attack on the Chinese Communist Party.

    During the student unrest in 1989 students began breaking little bottles. This was seen, and rightly so, as a way of saying that Deng Xiao Ping should be thrown out of office.

    Xiao means little
    Ping means bottle

    Breaking little bottles was a way of subtly criticism Deng Xiao Ping and calling for his downfall.
     
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    So you think the Chinese will respond to nicely asking them to revamp their policies ?

    Pretty foolish. I guess, when you believe a pregnant woman does not carry a live person inside of her, you can excuse any evil done against her, and excuse the people doing it.

    And yes, Biden's comment did cause anger. International.
     
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    Im comforted by Cicero's commentary,

    "Politicians are not born, there excreted":thumbs:
     
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    Cicero was a true libertarian.

    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." — Marcus Tullius Cicero


    Of course, tolerant liberals cannot stand to hear that kind of clear thinking, so they had to remove his head.
     
  14. Crabtownboy

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    Depends on how you ask. But don't expect real change.

    Who are you aiming your comment at. I have never supported abortion.

    Give me a link to 'international' anger ... or is this simply your 'international' anger. I doubt there is much real anger ... just folk who want to make political points.
     
  15. Bro. Curtis

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    That is the most foolish statement I have ever read.

    It is not our job to change China. Besides, aren't you the one who claims they are a capatalist society ?





    I believe I have stated your position on when life begins very well.






    Go right ahead and doubt it. A quick five-second search will expose hundreds of Op-Ed pieces from arounfd the globe. If you don't want to educate yourself, then don't. Even the Huffy-Puffy post is questioning this. And no, I won't link to it. Do your own research. And the word "international" needs quotation marks, not apostrophies. Since you are the one who claimed conservatives have a hard time reading, I feel it is appropriate to comment on your atrocious grammar.
     
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    Now now....if your a student of history you are well aware that it was Caesar that removed that head....one that simply opened its pie hole to the wrong politician....of course, what goes around comes around. Fascinating Roman civilization though.

    Has nothing to do with Jolton Joe Biden however....his heads is generally up his posterior.
     
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    The government is a dictatorship of the CCP.

    The economic system is unbridled Capitalism. There are no enforced regulations. Working in unsafe conditions is a problem of the people, not the government. The attitude is people's health cannot be considered if it will impact profit.

    There is no safety net of any kind. The old "iron rice bowl" system was destroyed.

    There are no liability laws. I can related a first-hand story about this if you want.

    It is similar to the Robber Baron era in U.S. history.

    I suggest you read Peter Hessler's book, Country Driving: A Chinese Road Trip to gain an idea of what life is like in China today ... especially the last 3rd of the book. Your public library probably has a copy.
     
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    On that we agree.


    And CTB, if I read those books, what will they tell me about how the Chinese carry out the more "sensitive" aspects of their family policies ? Since it is on that subject my challenge is based ?
     
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    Read and find out for yourself.
     
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    I'm sorry I didn't post the link or state it. I haven't been back in here since I posted. I assumed everyone would know because it was all over the news that day. I feel Biden was afraid to condem the policy and he danced nicely around it. This wasn't a gaffee, it was pure liberalism IMO.
     

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