Big Beef Over Philly Cheese Steak

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  1. ktn4eg

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    I love it.
     
  3. KenH

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    It's a private business. The owner should be able to serve or not serve whom he wants. If someone doesn't like the owner's policy, then he/she can take his/her business elsewhere.
     
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    Now only if every business in America would hold to this...
     
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    Unless you're the only business in town.

    But the whole thing is silly, because, as the guy pointed out, if you don't read English, the sign means nothing.
     
  6. Bro Tony

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    I think I love a good philly cheese steak!!!!:thumbs:

    Bro Tony
     
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    Kudos to him. The whole 2nd language thing of Spanish is offensive. He has some great points such as, how come we don't have signs posted in French, Italian, Dutch, etc. and why have we catered to Spanish speakers in the US? He get's a big thumbs up from me! :thumbs:
     
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    He who owns a private business should be able to do as he pleases with his own property as long as he does not violate another person's constitutional rights.
     
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    I heard on the news last night that his business was lined up out the door.
     
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    This brings up a question that fits some what in this thread. Does a person have to be a citizen to be able to vote? In order to be a citizen dont they have to demonstrate an ability to read and write English? If this is true why do we have bi-lingual ballots? If this is not true----never mind.

    Bro Tony
     
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    AMEN to that webdog!!! :thumbs:
     
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    O.K. he's a jerk. But it's his business. And there's no law against being a jerk. If he wouldn't serve to people because of color, or accent, or something of that sort, he wouild be out of line.

    But if he wants to do this, how is it different from anyone being rude to a non-English speaker asking for directions?

    Not the sort of guy you'd want to live next door, but no criminal.
     
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    Speak for yourself. I would love to have a neighbor who can and will speak English!

    Funny, illegals can come to our country, use our hospitals, schools, and be catered to at every turn, and speak only Spanish and this is not only accepted, but encouraged. Yet, an American citizen cannot demand that English be used when ordering at his own business. I agree with Webdog, that we need more of this, certainly not less.

    BTW, don't think for one second that the Spanish speakers can't understand this man's sign. It certainly doesn't take them long to figure out our monetary system.
     
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    I don't think the guy sounds like a jerk at all. He said no one was going to be turned away from his restaurant. And he made a very good point.........his is a cheesesteak place.....that's all they serve. How hard is it to learn "Cheesesteak, please" in English?
     
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    Uh, that's because there is a greater presence of Spanish speaking people in the country, aas we are right on the boundary of a large part of Spanish speaking world.
    I'm not saying that they shouldn;t have to learn our language; but let's face it, Am,aeric is predicted to become majority hispanig by the end of this century. Also, as the rest of the world is increasingly influenced by English, you will in time see these mega-languages dominate the globe.
     
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    Hey, guys. I've shared many times that I lived in Philly for about three years, but what you may not know is that I actually lived about six or seven blocks away from Geno's at 5th and Catherine.

    Used to walk there all the time.

    There's a huge rivalry between Geno's and Pat's, which is located across the street and loyalists to each place will often taunt one another across the street.

    Frankly, I prefer Jim's, a few blocks away on South Street, but it's always so packed with tourists that the line is often an hour long, so I'll walk to Geno's.

    The guys at Geno's are great. It's a family business and everybody who works there is family. They're very friendly and their steaks are better.

    The guys at Pat's are idiots.

    I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to ask that they're customers speak English. After all, they are in America now.

    Look at it this way, if they bowed to the Spanish speakers and went out and hired someone who could speak Spanish to appease them, what about the Poles? The Italian Market is located in a heavily Polish neighborhood.

    So then they go out and hire a Polish speaker ((hey, hear about the Polish National Ice Hockey Team? They all drowned in Spring training)) to appease the Poles.

    So now, the Spanish speakers and the Polish speakers are happy, but just a few blocks away, there's a big Chinese neighborhood. What about these poor Chinese people who can't order a cheesteak? ((and by the way, it is cheesteak, not cheesesteak))

    So then they go out and hire a Chinese guy to take the Chinese orders. "But, Mike", you're saying, "that Chinese guy speaks Cantonese and I want to order my cheesteak in Mandarin!"

    OK, they hire a Mandarin guy, too.

    Now, they've had to go and find a Pole, two Chinese guys, a Mexican and those guys are all thrilled, but now the Kenyans are mad.

    Get the point? There are hundreds of languages spoken around the globe and many of those languages have several regional dialects that are different.

    So, exactly how far is Geno's required to go in order to be considered culturally sensitive?
     
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    cheesteak........ok, is that the British English spelling or the American English spelling?

    :tongue3: :laugh: :thumbs:
     
  18. Mike McK

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    I've lived here for nigh on thirty years and I still don't have that Philadelphia - English dictionary figured out.
     
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    He's right. Order your food in English. Or at least American. :)
     
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    Well, Eric, all I can say to your post is that we share a larger, longer border with an English speaking country (parts of it French), so your argument about sharing a border with a Hispanic speaking country doesn't hold up. By the same token, let's turn it around - why don't WE demand Mexicans speak English when we visit (notice I said visit, not invade) their country? Because they would tell us to take a hike, just as we should tell them.
     
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