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Bill Ayers Says Obama Was ‘Family Friend’

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. Revmitchell

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    Bill Ayers, the Vietnam War-era radical who was a campaign headache for Barack Obama, says in a new afterword to his memoir that the two were neighbors and family friends.

    Ayers' reflections appear in a new paperback release of his 2001 memoir, "Fugitive Days." The Associated Press obtained a copy of the new afterword Thursday.

    Now an education professor at the University of Illinois-Chicago, Ayers helped found the Vietnam-era radical group the Weathermen, which carried out bombings at the Pentagon and the Capitol.

    During this year's presidential campaign, Republican John McCain's camp accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists" because of his past connections to Ayers. In addition to a meet-the-candidate event Ayers hosted more than a dozen years when Obama was starting his political career, Ayers and Obama served on a Chicago school reform group and a foundation board.

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  2. jesusisawesome

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    So? He's friends with a guy you disagree with. I imagine most Democrats are.
     
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    Obama and his radical buddies make me sick. And frankly those who supported him knowing these facts make me sick as well.
     
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    So Palin and Hannity Were Right???

    This means that Sean Hannity and Governor Palin were right all along. Can you imagine that? :laugh:

    AND, I still think Rev. Wright will have some kind of role in Obama's Inauguration.
     
  5. Revmitchell

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    "Well ain't that special?" ~ The Church Lady
     
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    No, they were not right. Yes, Ayres did some bad things 40 years ago but he is currently a respectable, law abiding citizen who has done much to improve the IL educational system. This article takes portions of the interview and it appears on the portion that supports their position against obama. I think this paragraph gives a truer picture of their relationship.

    And as for the coming out party in his home, Ayres discussed that also.

    So there were 20 or so coming out parties in one day. Obama makes a token appearance at each and we single the one bad contributer and say nothing about the other 19 houses with supporters.
     
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    Water bucket getting heavy?
     
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    So they were on the board together all those years and that was the first time he really met him?

    Do we have to parse his words and ask what "really" means or something?

    If so, how do we trust anything else Ayres has to say on his relationship with Obama?
     
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    I thought the boards were chronologically after the meet and greet.

    Oh, and I'm not saying all of Ayres words are truthful because he said no one died. I thought 7 people died in one of his bombings but I could be wrong.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    By the way Ayers is far from respectable. He remains unrepentant, he is making money from his terrorism through his book, and the only obvious reason he stopped his terrorist activities is he was caught got off on a technicality and would be caught if he ever tried it again. Otherwise it is most likely he would have continued his terrorism. But you go ahead and defend a terrorist.
     
  11. Martin

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    All of you folks would be much better served by doing something useful with your time other than hating Obama, Clinton, or Bush. It is a waste of time to spend your time digging up stuff on these guys. Nothing you dig up is going to change anything nor is it going to change most folks minds. People who voted for Obama have heard all of this stuff before and they still made the choice they made. Therefore he will be our next President. We should be praying for him, our country, and our troops. We should be witnessing to the lost and discipling the saved. Whatever Obama is, or is not, is water under the bridge. All we can do now is pray that the Lord's will be done (whatever that maybe). Personally I believe we are getting what we deserve.
     
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    I believe the only 3 people who died from a Weatherman bomb was 3 members of Weatherman in the Greenwich Village explosion when a bomb prematurely detonated. I could be wrong.
     
  13. LeBuick

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    I'm not defending Ayres as much as I'm an advocate of the principle that a person can change. I don't see Ayres doing the things he did 40 years ago. haven't read his books but from what I understand, the message of his books is one we see in use on this board today. One that says we have a right to disagree with government and that we have an obligation to voice our concerns when our government moves in a wrong direction.

    But I will disagree with your assertions about why his behavior changed. His protest and activities were regarding the war in Vietnam. If you think back to that period of time, there were literally millions of Americans that mirrored his sentiment though not has actions. I believe his actions stopped because the war in Vietnam stopped just like the rioting and marching in the streets and protest against the government.
     
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    I could be wrong, I was just going by memory.
     
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    How Could You Defend a Radical Terrorist????

    Leopards can't change their spots....

    I would think that you need to look deep into your heart and ask just why you would advocate [a PC term for defend]for such scum? This person escaped prison because the Feds messed up during their attempt to prosecute. Had Ayers not been the victim of the Feds mediocre and feeble attempts to prosecute, he'd be a convicted terrorist.

    It seems strange to me that an enemy of our nation would receive such a defense from some one who professes Jesus is Lord. I can forgive the guy, but, I could NEVER forget what he did. Of course, I'm not you, but, Ayers is a traitor, and should never be treated as anything else, for the good of this nation.

    Most nations would have killed him on the spot. He's blessed to live in a country he can hate, because it's blood bought freedom allowed him to protest in the name of freedom. Remember, he went way beyond peaceful protesting, and that makes him a violent protester/terrorist. He is despicable. I was a Viet Nam vet, and people like him soil and trashed the good intentions and names of friends that died for people like him. I was drafted into defending your right to say what you said in this post, and it irks me that you are so blinded to the fact that men like me, had no choice but to fight for Ayers, and you. Ayers could have moved from the US and given up his citizenship. He chose to stay and terrorize people in the name of "nothing."

    I don't understand your heart and train of thought at times.:BangHead:

    Shalom,:type:

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    Because defending him defends Obama's relationship with him.
     
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    Amen!

    I was reading about John Brown in my sons WV history book the other day, and Ayers deserved the same thing John Brown did... destroyed!

    Actually John Brown was convicted of treason and all he did was stand up against his country to abolish slavery.

    Ayers had no moral reason...

    But Ayers and his people should have been destroyed for treason.

    Now we have a president that is a family friend of his...
     
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    Oh yes they can, the Blood of Jesus can change even the leopards heart...

    I am not defending Ayres but I do believe the Bible is clear there is good and evil in all of mankind. To look at any man and only see his evil to me says the Bible is wrong and they have no good. I pray for his good and know his evil will be judged by the righteous judge who is able to see the inner parts of each of our hearts. IOW, I don't judge Ayres, I leave that to God. He knows.

    The fact that this nation doesn't kill him is a great testament to our nation. However, you sure we didn't kill him? I don't mean a physical death but he's certainly been written off in most American's views. Not only did we write him off, we also write off any association's he's had. Anyone whose looked past his faults and saw his good.

    I would think as Christians, we'd be experts on looking past faults... :BangHead:
     
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    Keep something in mind, the same constitution you feel allows you to defend the flag allows others to burn it in protest. Freedom is a funny animal.

    Ayres moral reason was his opposition to the war in Vietnam. I find it no different from the person who shot the abortion doctors or the ones who put fire to the abortion clinic. Should he had gone to jail, YES. Should he still be in jail, YES. However he is out because of flaws in our judicial system which is why I advocate the righteous judge whose system of justice never fails... :jesus:
     
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    So now this enemy of Viet Nam war veterans will have a friend in the White House right along with the rest of the Obamanites.
     
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