Bill, This latest round of questions concerning the financing of the Doth degree at SAT'S has piqued a question in my mind. If you could answer it for me I would appreciate it? How would you compare the rigor of the work done in the new SAT'S doctoral program with say your degree program or the one at UNISA? On another issue and from my own limited experience SAT'S is much more "user friendly" than UNISA. It may very well be that the major dynamic of factor is the size of the respective schools. Thoughts? :smilewinkgrin: "That is all!"