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Birth Certificate Found

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by windcatcher, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. targus

    targus New Member

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    You are unable to say this truthfully since you do not know what others will believe in the future given some as yet occurred event.

    There is a three letter word for people who say things that they do not know to be true.

    BTW - some of those "birthers" just might believe the actual long form birth certificate - the one thing that "the one" has refused to profer.

    Why would you suppose that he is refusing to show it?
     
  2. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    I made reference above to a President Biden if this was ever proven. Would that be the case? If he was not eligible to run, how could Biden have ever been elected VP since there was no true result for President? Who would be President? Would it require impeachment, or would it be an automatic vacancy?
     
  3. carpro

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    I believe it would require a new election since the first one would have been held under fraudulent circumstances.

    It's more likely that, even if Obama admitted being born in Kenya, nothing at all would be done. The Constitution certainly doesn't matter to liberals and there are 4 ideologues on SCOTUS and one fence rider. Anything could happen.

    SCOTUS is afraid of the issue.
     
  4. alatide

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    When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.
     
  5. alatide

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    No, I said that is a possible explanation which doesn't involve a conspiracy theory which is what you're pushing.
     
  6. targus

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    That does not mean that the long form cannot be obtained however.


    http://www.ednews.org/articles/unveiled-hawaiis-1961-long-form-birth-certificates.html

    "The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility."

    Also from that article...

    "WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001."

    "The statement to WND by Janice Okubo, public information officer for state's health department, contradicted CNN U.S. President Jon Klein, who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing Obama's birth certificate on the air. Klein insisted the issue was "dead" because Obama's original long-form birth certificate had been destroyed by the Hawaii DOH in the conversion to electronic files."


    So what we have is a lot of excuses... but no simple birth certificate.
     
  7. Magnetic Poles

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    Anyone who thinks there is the slightest chance that this noise will result in the removal of President Obama from office is seriously suffering from some misfiring synapses.
     
  8. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    I can't imagine why you left out the rest of my post. :rolleyes: Couldn't be because it clearly indicates I believe nothing will happen, could it?

    Intellectual dishonest is one of your stocks in trade.
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    Your personal attack aside, your post is there for all to read. It is perfectly legitimate to extract a part of it and address that...not at you...but to make a related point. It ain't all about you!
     
  10. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Especially when one wishes to change the meaning, intent, or tenor of the copied post, as in this case.

    As I said, intellectually dishonest.
     
  11. Crabtownboy

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    It would not matter, his mother was a natural born US citizen, thus her child, at birth, would also be a US citizen. Aren't US missionaries kids US citizens?

    But, he was born in Hawaii, so the Kenya matter is mute.
     
  12. Salty

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    But make sure everything is in context
     
  13. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Better brush up on your 1961 citizenship laws.
     
  14. Crabtownboy

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    Yes, you should do just that.

    Hmmmmm, but then I know you won't so here ............

    Note the following taken from the above list:

    His mother was born in the US. She lived in the US, went to and graduated from high school in Idaho, went to college in the US.

    Case closed.

     
  15. Crabtownboy

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    Yes, you should do just that. However as he was born in Hawaii he question is mute.
     
  16. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    :laugh:

    Hardly. How old was his mother? Did you overlook that little detail? Or just decide to kind of leave it out.

    Read it again and pick up your comprehension skills a notch.

    Maybe you;ll get it. Maybe not.

    Remember...1961 law. Try not to get confused.
     
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    Eight hundred thousand to one million dollars (our dollars?) is alot of mullah to spend on something that doesn't matter.

    Whatever he's trying to keep hiden seems to matter a great deal to him.
     
  18. Salty

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    Could it be his "real" mother is not an American citizen
     
  19. poncho

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    Dunno. We'll probably never know as Obama has an endless supply of our tax dollars to keep whatever he is hiding secret.
     
  20. carpro

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    The last figure I saw was $930,000,000 to keep it from being seen.

    Mine casts $23. Would anyone like to see it?
     
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