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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Dec 29, 2007.
Blasphemy? No. Funny? Parts, yes. Important or accurate? Probably not.
Well... I actually kind of think it is blasphemy... It offended me. The use of God in a joking manner isn't something that should be done, more so by politians. Seperation of church and state anyone?
He sort of basically... made fun of God. How you cannot think that is Blasphemy on some level.... is shocking.
==Because (a) blasphemy is not determined by what offends an individual like yourself or myself and (b) blasphemy is a form of speech that is "defamatory of the Divine" or is railing against God. Huckabee was not doing either. As a pastor, who is also in politics, he was simply doing a "skit" to make some points. He was not making fun of God nor was he slandering God's Holy Name. Nor was he acting as a government official passing a law (etc) concerning the establishment of religion.
He said nothing bad about God, so it's not blasphemy. It seemed he was making a point, first this is where we stand, him, his party, second those things are from God's word, family, children, etc.(whatever else he said). I've seen similar skits by christians in churches or worship situations, pretending to be talking to God on the phone.
Except he stated God would support him, and not the others.
But is that blasphemy? Probably not, a lot of people either say this, or think this at one point or another when they believe they are in the right, we even see the attitude here on the BB, are these people blaspheming God?
...which is true if he is the only believer running.
I think it is an arrogant statement, a bit prideful, but I get arrogant sometimes too. Otherwise, the rest of it seemed alright.
Imo, it isn't blasphemy. I agree Donna, it is common.
I thought it was cute, but yes he kinda acted like God was a republican. I belong to a union and I see their stickers that go on lunchboxes that say "God bless union people, America needs em. I don't think God cares about union people, unless they are saved. It's kind of like that.
I am not sure it is blasphemy but neither is it innocent,
It did use God's name vainly and it was sacrilegious.
I found it disgusting and out of line.
No, that's not the case. God doesn't always support a Christian candidate.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Since every ruler is chosen by God you only need to look at history many that weren't believers (Nero, Hitler, Stalin, etc.)
But we know God can't be republican since He cares for the poor... :godisgood:
This goes back to another thread where I posted the same thing. If, in America, God is placing them in power, why vote? I don't see where those verses quoted above go anywhere past Israel, maybe not even Israel today if they have elections now. We don't have kings like Israel had, we vote for the higher powers.
I for one believe God is in control, not the voters, voting is the way God chooses to to accomplish His will in this matter.
And by the way, even though I don't think it's blasphamy, I didn't think it was in good taste, simply because of it's political purposes.
Have you ever seen two Christian ball teams play against each other. They both pray to win.
Whose side is God on??? :laugh:
The winners... :laugh: :wavey:
Is everything that is done in church appropriate for a campaign speech? My answer is NO. I'm sick and tired of candidates referring to themselves as "God's candidate." How presumptious can you get? That was GW's pitch and look what we got, not only a lousy President but one whose Christianity was very questionable.
Amen, and this amen is from a Republican that was snowballed twice. It won't happen again.